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Sanitization on Humans?
Hey everyone, It's me, Agent 10, and I have a question to pose to all the Inklings and Octolings out there....

What would happen to a human (assuming they were 14 or 15 years old or younger) if they were Sanitized the same way that the Octarians and Octolings were? Would it even affect them at all? If they were affected, how would it affect them? How would they even become Sanitized in the first place? Injection? Ingestion? Physical Contact? Aerospray?

I am posting this in terms of this wiki's policy and along the guidelines of the Sanitization Project.

Please, respond. I would like to hear what would happen.

Agent 10 (talk) 23:46, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Interesting question, but as this is a wiki on splatoon, I don't see why this is necessary. Feel free to pose a musing on your user page, though :) Splattersky (talk) 00:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

why an aerospray? Woomy1 (talk) 15:24, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Camp Triggerfish Maps
Camp Triggerfish doesn't have the maps for Splatoon 2, only Splatoon. Could someone please add the Splatoon 2 maps? (https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Camp_Triggerfish) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeysauras (talk • contribs) 07:25, 10 January 2019‎ (UTC)

Spoiler alert on main page
I noticed that the smash wiki has a spoiler warning at the top of the main page, as well as on some pages, saying something along the lines of "This wiki contains spoilers! Read at your own risk!" I think that would be helpful here too, so we wouldn't have to remember to put the spoiler warning everywhere. Splattersky (talk) 01:23, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Splatfest Flooder Artwork
Does anyone know where this render came from? I asked the original uploader but he never responded. I need to know if there are any other Splatoon 2 enemy renders that it originated from. GoombaBroadcast (talk) 1:54 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Should email address be required for new accounts?
On this wiki, a login is required to edit pages, but given that, how about requiring an email address to be specified for all new accounts, with email confirmation being required to edit pages with these accounts? Sincerly on 03:27, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

plz no Woomy1 (talk) 15:23, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Why not? -- 08:05, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

I agree with Woomy1. I also think that if this rule was imposed, any accounts like mine where their users don't have emails could be locked out from editing.--Splatana (talk) 11:26, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, existing users wouldn't if the requirement only applies to new accounts and existing accounts that already have emails.-- 16:57, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Splatoon 2 Character Models
I feel like we need some character models for most of the enemies in Splatoon 2 (especially the Salmonids) since it’s rather hard to get High Quality pictures of some of them. Do we have anyone that knows how to get ahold of them? GoombaBroadcast (talk) 17:29, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

I have a friend who is able to rip the models of enemies such as Salmonid, the problem is that I dont think the proper shaders can be easily applied, so it still looks kind of ugly. Rassicas 20:42, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

That's alright, I'll still try to get good screenshots of some of the other enemies. Still getting used to photoshop. GoombaBroadcast (talk) 10:21, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Timeless
Inkipedia's default theme/skin is due for an upgrade from Vector to Timeless. Before we can do this, we need to get some opinions to make sure everything's okay. Read below and share your opinions.

The benefit of Timeless is that it adapts to every screen size; it has a modern and responsive design. Timeless is already the default on mobile, and we might be making it the desktop default to avoid maintaining two skins and so that desktop users get the same benefits.

To try Timeless early on desktop, go to Special:Preferences and select Timeless from the Appearance section. Alternatively, follow this link to only try a single page: https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Scrapper?useskin=timeless.

I expect that there might be opinions on 3 things: All of those behaviors can be changed as desired. Just comment here if you want us to stick with the default Timeless behaviors or change something. Heddy (talk) 20:05, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Should the top bar "stick" on your screen as you scroll down, for easy access to search?
 * Timeless default: Yes. Old skin: No.
 * Should there be two sidebars or do we force it to always have one?
 * Timeless default: 1 sidebar on small desktop window, 2 sidebars on big desktop window. Old skin: 1 sidebar.
 * Should the content area's size be consistent or unlimited?
 * Timeless default: the content area will always be roughly the same size regardless of screen size. Old skin: The page always keeps getting wider on wider screens.
 * Not a fan of the dual sidebars, computers have the advantage of nice large width for lots of info, narrowing it feels more constrained, and everything looks a bit larger, like if someone blew up the mobile version (which is exactly what happened...) I have no idea how customisation this stuff all is, but I feel the sidebar size itself is a bit too big.


 * Me likey the new search bar. 20:32, 10 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The dual sidebar is pretty off-putting to me, I prefer everything on one side. The rest looks fine by me. Rassicas 20:52, 10 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Not sure if this response is late or not, but I think the new skin looks great! I definitely like how the search bar keeps with you as you scroll down, and you aren't forced to scroll all the way back up when you want to search something. Although, like others have said, I'm not very fond of the dual sidebar. And also, I don't really have a preference for the third thing, since I only use inkipedia on one device, and I'm not sure what it's currently like on other devices. It'll take a lot of getting used to the new skin, though, for me. -- S u n d a e Squid S Weapon Main Octobrush.png Talk  23:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Not late. We'll wait a couple days to get all concerns ironed out before doing anything. Feel free to keep testing the skin. Heddy (talk) 00:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't really mind the second side bar, but since it is shorter it feels a little lopsided when compared the other side bar? I don't know how else to put it. Other than that and the things I've already mentioned on Discord (which were more visual critique on layouts, so hard to easily demonstrate in a talk page), the only other thing I mind is how all text feels bigger. If it isn't in a table or template, all text in an article feel like I have my browser on 120% zoom level compared with how it was in the Vector skin. 00:31, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Vector's text is 87% of your web browser's base font size. Timeless defaults to 95%. I think that being closer to respecting your computer or web browser's actual chosen font size is a good thing, not a bad thing. Regardless, we can adjust it to 87% if that's a widespread opinion. Heddy (talk) 01:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't know that Vector already affected font size! It might be something one gets accustomed to then. We will see after a trial run I guess. 13:32, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I am okay with everything except for the second side bar. 02:31, 11 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Yeah, as everyone else said, second side bar really puts me off it. Everything else is okay! Splattersky (talk) 09:11, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna jump on the second sidebar hate train and say that I agree with that complaint. But, if we do get a second sidebar then at least be consistant with what's on which side. Now general navigation is on the left side while the wiki tools but the tools section is on the right side. I'd say the tools section should also be on the right side. -- R alts eye prata med mej 15:11, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Due to the above feedback, Timeless is now single sidebar. Heddy (talk) 01:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * BOOYAH!! Splattersky (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Another change: As long as you're not viewing Inkipedia in a small window, the page-specific part of the sidebar will be sticky. That's the part of the sidebar that shows a page's categories, other languages available (sometimes French), and actions like moving the page. Try scrolling up and down and you'll see what I mean. Make sure to say something if you have an opinion on this. Heddy (talk) 23:16, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

We should make the Timeless the default, and still have the old skin as an option. 00:18, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * The old skin, Vector, will continue to be available at Special:Preferences for the foreseeable future. Heddy (talk) 15:42, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I am new to Inkipedia please help me
I am new to the Inkipedia world, can anyone show me how to:
 * Upload a file from the computer
 * Have a fancy signature

This can also be found on User talk:Eleven23. Eleven23 (talk) 21:10, 15 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I responded to the upload question on the Help talk:Upload page, but if you want a fancy sig like mine, it requires coding and whatnot, and it's a little complicated. If you want me to make a sig for you tho, I'd be happy to help! -- S u n d a e Squid S Weapon Main Octobrush.png Talk  21:21, 15 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I managed to do it: eleven 2 3  ( talk ) 23:24, 15 February 2019 (UTC). Still figuring out the upload file part, it says 'You're not allowed to edit this wiki through the API.' Sort of like User:Luke26. but with this.  eleven 2 3  ( talk ) 23:24, 15 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Final version, thanks for helping me! Inkling project paintball font eleven23.png Inkling project paintball font eleven23 talk.png 00:16, 16 February 2019 (UTC)


 * np!! -- S u n d a e Squid S Weapon Main Octobrush.png Talk  02:15, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

News
Why does the main page, at the very bottom under news, say that 4.4.0 released on Dec 5? I'm pretty sure 4.4 was released Jan 30 and it was 4.3.0 that released on Dec 5, is this a typo? -- S u n d a e Squid  Talk  19:03, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It's supposed to be the date that the news item was added to the page. I corrected it based on when the news was added. Heddy (talk) 19:10, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! -- S u n d a e Squid S Weapon Main Octobrush.png Talk  22:28, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Renaming solved Ink Pump Questions and Topics??
Should we re-name the to  so people don't get confused if an Ink Pump question hasn't been answered? As well as to ? 20:24, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think so, as this is not a tech support forum. Old messages get archived regardless of whether they are answered or not. Heddy (talk) 20:31, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Human
Are there any photos of Humans in gameplay? If there are, please send the png. Splooshy and Squiddy Girl (talk) 16:26, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure humans were barely mentioned until Octo Expansion, and the only actual times "humans" were actually seen was one's skeleton in a sunken scroll and the NILS statue. -- S u n d a e Squid S Weapon Main Octobrush.png Talk  22:04, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Another human that is assumed to be Judd's owner can be seen holding Judd in sunken scroll 25 from Splatoon. 22:32, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Friend Requests?
Hey can you send friend requests here? Also, I would like to send one to User:SundaeSquid.From Splooshy as well as Squiddy Girl (talk) 15:26, 20 February 2019 (UTC).

Readability for Album Pages
Hey guys, I just recently came up with an idea to make the track listings on the pages of Splatune, Splatune 2, and Octotune be easier to read. At the moment, longer song listings can include Japanese text, transliterations, and English titles - for the names of both the song and artist. This leads to what I think is a somewhat muddled mix of Japanese and English, with far too many pairs of brackets and italics to differentiate things. Using Ink Me Up as an example, it currently looks like this:

キミ色に染めて (Kimi-iro ni Somete, "Ink Me Up") {シオカラーズ (Sea O'Colors, "Squid Sisters")}

I thought that a way of placing the Japanese on one side and English on the other would help tremendously in decluttering this, with my suggestion being this:

キミ色に染めて (Kimi-iro ni Somete) - シオカラーズ (Sea O'Colors) / Ink Me Up - Squid Sisters

It doesn't reduce much space but hopefully makes it slightly clearer what is being referred to each time, with each language showing the song title followed by the artist name. Let me know what you think of this idea! I know it would be a bit of a faff changing the pages, however. Similarly, if there's a reason why the current layout is used, then I'll understand that as well. Cheers!

GloverMist (talk) 14:53, 24 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I think this is a great idea! It definitely improves the readability, in my opinion. -- S u n d a e Squid S Weapon Main Octobrush.png Talk  00:10, 25 February 2019 (UTC)


 * That's great to hear! If nobody else has any objections or thoughts then I'll start working on that in the next few days. GloverMist (talk) 16:18, 25 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Hmm, maybe a chart? 19:07, 25 February 2019 (UTC)


 * What kind of thing did you have in mind? GloverMist (talk) 08:58, 26 February 2019 (UTC)


 * {| class="wikitable sitecolor-s"

! Track ! Western title ! Japanese title ! Japanese pronunciation? ! Other Japanese? ! Japanese translation? ! Artist
 * 3
 * Ink Me Up
 * キミ色に染めて
 * Kimi-iro ni Somete
 * シオカラーズ
 * Sea O'Colors
 * Squid Sisters
 * }
 * }
 * }


 * Maybe something like this? I put the English title first, as i feel the link should be upfront. 15:44, 26 February 2019 (UTC)


 * That seems pretty good! If I were doing it, I'd put the English artist name before its Japanese counterpart, like what is listed for the song title, just for consistency's sake. I would make the column titles, in order: 'Track number', 'English song title', 'Japanese song title', 'Translation', 'English artist name', 'Japanese artist name', 'Translation'. That seems to make things most obvious. But again, if you think this is too much for all album pages, do say so! GloverMist (talk) 10:32, 1 March 2019 (UTC)


 * {| class="wikitable sitecolor-s"

! Track number ! English song title ! Japanese song title ! Translation ! English artist name ! Japanese artist name ! Translation
 * 3
 * Ink Me Up
 * キミ色に染めて
 * Kimi-iro ni Somete
 * Squid Sisters
 * シオカラーズ
 * Sea O'Colors
 * }
 * }
 * }


 * Like this? May have got some of the boxes mixed up, but yeah. I think writing "track number" makes the box waaaay too wide for some numbers.


 * Also I just realised, I meant TABLE not chart. oh well. 22:12, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Looks perfect to me! Maybe you’re right about changing “Track Number” back to just “Track”, but aside from that, seems to be bang on! (Side note, I’m not sure how to carry on a conversation without indenting it way too far in to be readable, whoops.) GloverMist (talk) 00:11, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Timeless Section Titles
I was just wondering if it would be possible to add the ink splats on section titles to Timeless. If we could, I think it would be a great improvement to the character of the wiki and keep it unique!--Splatana (talk) 10:13, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I added the ink splats. I used the previously unused colors, so someone let me know if that's a good or bad idea. Heddy (talk) 21:54, 9 March 2019 (UTC)


 * It's alright, but I prefer all green. Although, the Inkipedia that always stays in the top left is bothering me. Maybe use a pic link (like my sig). Inkling project paintball font eleven23.png Inkling project paintball font eleven23 talk.png eleven23 splatoon font 3.png 22:05, 9 March 2019 (UTC)


 * *top left sidebar. Inkling project paintball font eleven23.png Inkling project paintball font eleven23 talk.png eleven23 splatoon font 3.png 20:08, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Where can I find the user edit count template?
I've seen many people like User:Shahar/edit count using the table but where can I find it so I can use it? 21:46, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * See wikipedia:User:Kanegasi/editcounter. Heddy (talk) 22:04, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Tutorial in the wiki how to get it. Blog:Edit Counter. 22:07, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Spam Accounts
In the Special:Recent Changes log, I notice that the number of spam accounts being created is astronomical, growing by leaps and bounds. Eventually, it will be so many that they will create themselves faster than we can splat them! Suggest putting a pictorial CAPCHA on the account creation page. -DJParticle (talk) 11:06, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Captcha V3 would be the best option (and if I refer it as reCaptcha, it's the same thing.) Inkling project paintball font eleven23.png Inkling project paintball font eleven23 talk.png eleven23 splatoon font 3.png 10:03, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Even better: block the IP. Inkling project paintball font eleven23.png Inkling project paintball font eleven23 talk.png eleven23 splatoon font 3.png 10:34, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * If this was 10 years ago, I'd agree with you, but ISPs these days do so much NATing to preserve the still reverse-compatible (and still dominant) IPv4, that an IP block could take out an entire neighborhood. If you can IP block by IPv6 (in which each specific device has its own IP address hashed from MAC address), that would be far smarter. -DJParticle (talk) 12:22, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * IPv6 addresses change daily. I think that means we would need to block large ranges of addresses to keep an individual blocked. So as more people switch to IPv6, blocking by IP gets more difficult. Heddy (talk) 14:00, 16 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I asked the webmaster for a solution. Better CAPTCHA is probably an option. Also, I disabled account creation for now. Heddy (talk) 14:00, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Account creation is re-enabled. I'm trying an abuse filter that should automatically block spammers. Heddy (talk) 23:07, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Foreign-language redirects
I've noticed a lot of people making foreign-language redirects. This practice is harmful to the wiki for both English users and foreign-language users.


 * Overlap (when two languages have the same word or phrase but that word or phrase has a different meaning in each language) can cause conflict and confusion. People searching for one language would be brought to another language's English equivalent instead of their own language's English equivalent. This is the primary reason to delete these non-English redirects and not create new ones.
 * Removing foreign-language redirects does not impact the ability to search in other languages. These terms are present in the names in other languages table, which causes them show up in search results. This means these non-English redirects are entirely superfluous.
 * Non-English redirects clutter the search suggestions for English searches. Remember that this is an English-language wiki so English searches are the most common. Why inconvenience most searchers?
 * This practice could easily lead to a slippery slope where people think that redirects should be created even for languages that Splatoon was not officially translated to.
 * Due to the way search engines like Google work, redirect pages show up in Google results sometimes. If an Inkipedia for another language were to be started, English Inkipedia's Google listing for a page would be ranked above the actual wiki for that language, due to popularity. These Google listings may also give people Google searching in their own language a false impression that Inkipedia is a website written in their language, and they would quickly be dissapointed after clicking the link to Inkipedia. By deleting the redirects, Inkipedia would still show in these Google results, but with an honest English title, and ranked below any better resources in the searched language.

With this practice being harmful for both English speakers and foreign-language speakers, while at the same time having no real benefit at all (point 2), I advise for this to discontinue. The consensus on Discord was for this to end. If there isn't any opposition here, the redirects will be deleted. Heddy (talk) 17:19, 21 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that sounds good. I was mostly making foreign-language redirects since I saw other users were doing it, and I figured I should help out. Sorry about that. ShinyCelesteela (talk) 17:25, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I support removing them. Also ShinyCelesteela no need to appologize, it's just a praxis we'll stop with. -- R alts eye prata med mej 17:30, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Support: There is Inkipédia as well, and yes, foreign users do come here. Let's say if this was in the real world:
 * A foreign person recently came into your county, and decides to walk into a restaurant that looks like it came from their country. The foreign person soon discovers that everything is English. The menu, the people, the conversations, the setting, even the food. They would be disappointed.
 * This is exactly what's happening in Inkipedia: A foreign person clicks on either the link in Google or the link in Inkipedia, and they soon discover it's all English.
 * In fact, if any of us were to be from another country that doesn't support English, we would be disappointed.
 * 20:15, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't exactly understand your point but if a foreigner walked into a restaurant in say, Australia, they wouldn't be disappointed if anything is in English since it's expected. But if I walked into a bar here in Sweden with a Swedish sign, name and menu and the waitors all spoke English then yes, that would be disappointing. I think that if a foreign language speaker searched for their localized name in a search engine and got what looks like a website in their language and ended up here then they could potentially be disappointed. We have the Names in other languages sections so that it can be searched for anyway. Redirects only make things messier. -- R alts eye prata med mej 12:53, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

The redirects have been deleted. 2139 redirects were deleted in total. Heddy (talk) 00:47, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

'Watch this space' checkbox
Un-checking the 'watch this space' checkbox is getting annoying for me. Can any staff make the checkbox un-checked as the default option? (Or at least make it an option at Preferences) 03:59, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That is already an option at preferences. Heddy (talk) 07:52, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find it. 20:00, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Band member redirects
I have an idea that we could create redirects for individual members of each band, so for instance "Ichya" or "ICHYA" could redirect to Squid Squad, "Kitamura" could redirect to Ink Theory, and so on and so forth. However, there are a few issues I could see arising from this.


 * 1) Ikkan, as a member of both Squid Squad and Diss-Pair, would not be able to redirect to both pages unless we create his name as a disambiguation page.
 * 2) Depending on how you romanize their name, Raian of Chirpy Chips may very well have the same name as RYAN from Wet Floor. Currently, we have the former romanized as "Raian," which would sort of solve this issue, and if we want to be technical, "RYAN" is meant to be pronounced more like "Rianne," but since that romanization isn't officially used anywhere, it's best we just don't use that.
 * 3) We'd also need to officially decide on which romanizations to use across the wiki. I've seen "Muruta Bottom," "Murtagh Bottom," "Multar Bottom," and "Murter Bottom" all used to describe the scallop in the Bottom Feeders. We need to pick one and go with it!

Ultimately, since the band characters are extremely minor and don't have much information on their own, I believe their names should just be used as redirects to the full band's page. If we can work out these few complications, I think this might be a nice addition to the wiki, but I'd like to open a discussion before going through with this in any capacity. ShinyCelesteela (talk) 12:13, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree, I also think that if they have similar names or the same name but with different spellings then a disambig would be the best course of action, otherwise redirects galore. Regarding romanizations, I don't know Japanese but yes, it would be for the best to use one consistant romanization and stick with it. -- R alts eye prata med mej 14:40, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sweet! Any idea on how we'd manage Ikkan? I feel that if we can solve that, then I'll get to the redirects right away. I figure for romanizations, we can just use the ones currently on the pages. ShinyCelesteela (talk) 16:45, 26 March 2019 (UTC)