Talk:Octarian

What's the name
What do you call the ones that walk toward you and explode? http://www.auplod.com/u/opulda57102.png (talk) 01:13, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The image you provided does not contain an image of an Octarian, so I am not fully sure what you are referring to. I do recall an Octarian like that which I believe first appeared around Mission Two. --SgvSth (talk) 14:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Some sources call the one that the DJ Octavio shoots Octomissles, but I don't know if that necessarily applies to the ones you find in the regular stages. Redactedjpg (talk)
 * I'm pretty sure it is an Octopod. They walk or run fast towards you then explode to try and splat you.

-Mr Squid (talk) 04:20, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Appearances
In the appearances section for different Octarians (e.g. Octostamps or octosnipers) sometimes it says which levels they appear in, for others it says what they look like. Which is correct? Mr Squid (talk) 04:23, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's "appearance" vs. "appearances". For simplicity's sake at least, we should make them all "description" and "appearances", like what's currently on the Octostamp page. That should make things less confusing. --Bzeep!  talk  11:56, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Great Octoweapons in Splatoon 2
Shouldn't we count the Splatoon 2 bosses as Great Octoweapons as well? I really don't understand why they wouldn't be counted. --User talk:GoombaBroadcast 17:37, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

No, the splatoon 2 ones are octobosses, which are unrelated to octoweapons. Volnar (talk) 14:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC) Volnar

Cirpy Chips Bass player
Should the bass player from Chirpy Chips, who is a flapjack octopus, be considered/assumed to be Octarian? It was never offically stated, and there have been shown other cephalopods who aren't considered Inklings or Octolings, so would it be better to remove the bass player from the list or at least mention that it's only an assumption? --Hinamin (talk) 15:10, 6 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah I think they shouldn't be grouped with Octarians since they've never been referred to as such. We could just have a trivia point about how they're an octopus but maybe not an Octarian. --Bzeep  talk   20:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Octarian Growth Cycle
Made an edit to the Trivia section. It is a common assumption among some fans that the artbook's detailing of the "Octarian Growth Cycle" applies ONLY to the lower-ranking Octarians, but at least in the English language version of the artbook, this is never stated and in fact the artbook page in question has the text explaining their growth cycle right above pictures of enemy Octolings.

There are also some evidences in the game which would imply that Octolings are grown from tentacles such as the Octavio apparently being an elite Octoling himself who creates new Octarians by cutting off his tentacles, with some like the Octo Samurai looking awfully close to a giant Octoling. Also, in the Octo Expansion, during the character creation screen, Agent 8 is seen developing in what appears to be a vat of liquid, which again implies that Octolings are "grown". Also, at no point in the game does the dialogue ever treat the Octolings as a "separate species". There are several cases where, again, in the English language version, Octarian is used as a broad label to include all Octarian sub-species, including the Octolings. I think a lot of fans just don't like the idea that Octolings may not have actual reproductive organs?????

Anyway it is possible that Octolings can reproduce in a normal sexual way and by removing their tentacles, but this hasn't been confirmed as far as I know. Also, there has been a new in-game band revealed that features a young Octoling DJ that looks kinda similar to some of the art of the developing inklings.

https://twitter.com/SplatoonJP/status/1042701023964327936

Point is, I feel like we're still waiting on more stuff to be revealed or possibly retconned in this area. Hope that helps.Octo-maker71 (talk) 09:54, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Another Edit: Adding the extra information regarding Sashimori's DJ was a good touch, but I felt that the original wording was problematic. For one thing, although the Squid Sisters Stories explicitly state Marie went to visit her parents, which implies that Inklings have normal (presumably) heterosexual family structures, we don't exactly know HOW they reproduce either. In fact, we have MORE information about the Octarians' reproduction and possible family-social structures than we do the inklings. Some people might object on the basis that the fact that Inklings do have parents and apparently Wahoo World is described as a "dating spot", that we should assume the Inklings reproduce like humans and thus Octolings do too, but I'm not sure if we can do that. In Sunken Scroll #8 in Splatoon 1, we see a painting by "Octolangelo" called "Paradise Lost" which portrays two lower ranking Octarians with amorous expressions on their face in a painting clearly inspired by classical portrayals of Adam & Eve. And yet, we are told in the first artbook that these lower ranking troops have no reproductive organs? But if you didn't have the artbook, you would have every reason to assume that octarians reproduce similarly to how we humans do just based on that scroll, but the artbook confirms this to not be the case, at least for the lower octarians.

While I apologize if this all seems very pedantic on my part, I do think that we need to keep in mind a few things:

1.) This game is rated E for Everyone in North America and All Ages in Japan.

2.) The Inklings and Octarians are not humans or mammals and are very different from real squid or octopi.

3.) The Splatoon world is a very cartoony sort of world. It can be very playful and self-aware at times in how it justifies game-play contrivances in-universe or how it builds it lore and characters.

'''Personally, I propose that we have enough material between both artbooks, the manga, as well as both games and the Octo-Expansion, to add a more comprehensive "Octarian Society" tab to this article similar to what is found in the Inklings'. There's still some gray areas, but confusing bits and potential contradictions can be better addressed in a more full-fledged section, rather than just appended to "trivia".''' Octo-maker71 (talk) 22:54, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

D.J octavio’s octobot king is not listed as a great octoweapon
Um, why is d.j Octavio not listed as a great octoweapon? 🐙 🐙 😵😵😫 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Squid splat gang boss (talk • contribs) 01:55, 26 August 2020

Mammalians
Should the mammalians mentioned in the second trailer be listed under octarians? I have no idea if they are related to them or are a totally separate species. 𝕎𝕠𝕠𝕞𝕪𝔾𝕚𝕣𝕝𝟠𝟝 (talk) 21:47, 24 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Since we have only seen them once, let’s just say they are a separate species for now. BadTimeGamer123 (talk) 22:25, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Shiver's family, definition of "Octarian"
In the Ask the Developer Vol. 7, Splatoon 3–Part 3 https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-7-splatoon-3-part-3/, there is this part: "By the way, the three members of Deep Cut, the news personalities of Splatsville, are descendants of the families that have overseen the Splatsville festival for generations.". This would mean that Shiver's family has been living outside of Octo Valley or Octo Canyon for a long time. This might mean that there are lots of other Octolings who also do not "reside in Octo Valley and Octo Canyon", and are not "ruled by DJ Octavio". I didn't make the changes yet because I am not completely sure about the definition of "Octarian". Does it include all Octolings? 05:08, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Inklings think Octolings are Inklings with weird hairstyles?
In the article it says, "The Inklings in Inkopolis are said to be unaware that Octolings are Octarians, and instead, assume that they are Inklings with weird hairstyles." Where exactly is this mentioned? I looked at the Reddit translation of the Famitsu interview cited and it didn't say anything about Inklings not knowing Octolings are a different species. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 23:10, 7 January 2023 (UTC)


 * It is actually mentioned by Off the Hook when you arrive in Inkopolis Square for the first time and in the S2 Squid vs. Octopus Splatfest announcement dialog.  23:21, 7 January 2023 (UTC)