Inkipedia:Ink Pump/Archives/2023-03-07

What happened?
I left a message on INK:PUMP and I checked to see if anyone got back to me, but then My message was gone! What happened? Splat  girl (talk) 16:52, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Someone archived the past Ink Pump conversations. They must of thought your question wasn't an ongoing conversation. If you want you could add the question here :)  17:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * In reference likely to this message here, I have no idea what you were asking for. Trig - 17:44, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Mechanics Navbox
I made a Navbox template for various mechanics, but I'd like some feedback on it. Template:Navbox/Mechanics 21:41, 7 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Looks pretty good to me! Not sure where we should put it, if you want it on a page. Good job, though! 21:58, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I was going to put it on the pages of all the items inside it.

21:59, 7 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Could use some color adjustments, but looks great! I had noticed this wiki was missing a navbox for Mechanics despite having so many Mechanic pages, happy to see someone took care of it. Wonderful work! Yoshifan52 (talk) 22:15, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Cool. Just wondering! Thanks! 22:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It looks great!! I saw the Checkpoint introduced in the first game is on there, but wouldn't it be Spawn point instead? :0 Since Checkpoint redirects to the page for Spawn point.  23:06, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

DLC
Nintendo just announced splatoon 3 DLC! Let's get new articles out right away :) Lofiguy (talk) 17:17, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * we are already on it xD Ratch  S2_Gear_Headgear_Golden_Toothpick.png JPTAerosprayRG.png S3 Badge E-liter 4K 5.png S Weapon Special Inkstrike.png 18:24, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Great :) Lofiguy (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Gear Seeds
Should we make an article regarding gear seeds and LeanYoshi's gear seed checker? It's technically canon, isn't it? But should it be an article on its own or added to the gear page or the hacks page? Woomy? (talk)  18:25, 13 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Do we have a hacks page? I can't find one. Lofiguy (talk) 19:30, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Woomy? No, from what I saw, it is not canon and should not be added.
 * @Lofiguy We do not have a hacks page because it is non canon and not our concern. We do have a page for Glitches, though.
 * -Xando (ping) 19:38, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright then. Sorry for the confusion, I meant the glitches page but said hacks instead. Woomy? (talk) S2_Weapon_Main_Sploosh-o-matic_7.png S2_Ability_Main_Power_Up.png 19:41, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Something big is missing...
There's something that I've noticed isn't on this wiki, and coming from the Minecraft Wiki, it really bothers me. We are completely lacking in all clips of various short noises. Everything that makes sound in Minecraft has a sound table on its wiki page, and I know that lots of things in the Splatoon games make noises too. Does anyone know how to make a "sound byte" template where you click a small icon on an infobox and it plays an associated sound byte?

I am aware that this would require a LOT of datamining to take out all the individual sound bytes and upload them onto the wiki, but I'm pretty sure I can find someone who's got the knowledge and time to do that. 19:38, 13 February 2023 (UTC)


 * That would be really cool... we should add it! Lofiguy (talk) 02:22, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It would be too much of a waste of time and unnecessary for the wiki. In Minecraft, one might not know the noise of a "mob" or whatever (I don't play it) so they would look it up. In our case, even if you don't know what a torpedo or tacticooler sounds like, you can naturally see it over the course of a couple games and learn what they sound like, unlike Minecraft (from my knowledge) where crap can appear and disappear on a whim. -Xando (ping) 02:38, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * What about Octarians? Not everyone plays the singleplayer campaigns, and we have other voice clips on the wiki, but they're just links to download a big file. We document all of the music in the games, and someone might come here who's never played Splatoon and wants to know what the game sounds like. I know that sounds weird, but I think it's essential(or at least notable) information. 02:45, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * A handful of pages already have collections of sound effects, but they play in succession within a single audio file rather than individually on the page itself like the Minecraft Wiki does it. Additionally, the majority of all three games' sound effects haven't been datamined and/or uploaded by reliable sources, making it a bit difficult to get this up and running quickly. I really like the idea of pages having easy to listen to sound effects, but it seems like it'd be a lot of work. Yoshifan52 (talk) 02:38, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This would make an interesting project. I can see arguments both for having sound effects and not having sound effects, though. Would the goal be to have one sound effect for say, each weapon or character? All of them? I would be concerned that having a significant amount of sound effects could lead to having really long pages. I would also like to suggest that if this is something to be undertaken, that the SFX uploaded are consistently formatted in naming and quality to ensure consistent playback from sound to sound: Otherwise, it may end up with some sounds being drastically different than others. That said, if Inkipedia does want to be considered as a complete encyclopedia for the series, it may not be unwise to actually try getting some of the more important sounds onto the wiki. I'm supportive of the idea—just making sure it's well organized before it is implemented. Trig - 02:45, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Trig Jegman I am wanting to document EVERY single little sound byte, but there's a good way to do it.
 * Your recent overhaul of the File Template would make uploading all of them a breeze
 * An infobox easily organizes them all on the page documenting the source of the sounds, or more specifically, a section on these pages.
 * On the Minecraft Wiki, every page with a sound table has extremely small volume icons that you click on to play an associated sound byte. To be fair, Minecraft Wiki's sound table is very large, but that's because the sounds in Minecraft have a ton of properties due to the ingame /playsound command and the fact that Minecraft has subtitles for deaf players. Documenting Splatoon's sound effects would simply involve making a replica of this sound button and uploading a bunch of tiny files to the wiki.
 * The sound tables here wouldn't be anywhere near as big, and even if they were, there are a LOT of tiny pages on the wiki that could use at least a little bit more content.
 * Because of the nature of organization on this wiki already, putting in tiny sound bytes would be like adding lettuce to a burger without any condiments yet, which has a very low chance to make a mess on your hands.
 * I meant more along the lines of the audio files themselves. I would, for example, encourage the use of MP3 as the sole format used so that these files can receive equal playback across browsers. I think this is a conversation that warrants more discussion for the validity of SFX on site first, though. I would like to hear more opinions on the matter. Trig - 03:15, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bobbyawesome101 I would recommend starting a list of everything that needs an audiofile if you are truly invested in this project. Putting it in your sandbox would be a good idea. -Xando (ping) 18:30, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * User:Bobbyawesome101/Sandbox/List of sounds now exists. It is a skeleton for a list of sound bytes not present on the wiki. I invite anyone to fill it in, and perhaps rearrange the categories if it's not clear enough. 19:38, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This list looks great so far! Yoshifan52 (talk) 02:04, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that I'd appreciate some help with getting all of the sounds. I haven't played much online in Splat 1 or 2, and don't have a squid amiibo. I'd also appreciate some staff feedback on this project. 01:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Image editing guidelines
I added an image editing section to Inkipedia's image guidelines. In summary, please do not use edited images in wiki articles. Of course, these are just guidelines, not hard rules, but I do believe these new guidelines will improve the wiki. What does everyone think? Heddy (talk) 01:10, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I think these guidelines are a great! I have seen many cropped images to show a specific character (Such as the one for Craymond's infobox) and occasionally the photos look out of place. Should we replace the images that have been cropped with the original image? If so, I will help out when I can :)  01:19, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The consensus on Discord and as evidenced by many such cropped images already on wiki, is that cropped images are acceptable. I've removed that part of the guideline. Now it's just no background removal and no upscaling. Heddy (talk) 01:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok!  01:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Tagging in here, I believe there are too many practical applications for cropped images where they are justified in being cropped as well as existing images to actually make a policy against it. A no cropped images policy would literally render all gear close-ups unacceptable to the standards. Rather, I would identify images that may need retaken at full size individually and utilize the Lowquality template instead to seek reupload, if not taken just by yourself. Trig - 01:34, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Are there any other types of image edits that should be added to the guidelines? Currently only fansparency and upscaling are explicitly forbidden. Heddy (talk) 16:26, 18 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if this quite fits in here, but I would suggest trying to avoid the use of GIF for gameplay, because of its limited color palette. A direct conversion would not be possible as its already lossy on that front, but perhaps encouraging apng or mp4 would be better. Trig - 16:44, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

"Mark" Page
I think a page is needed for the mechanic used by Ink Mines, Point Sensors, and Angle Shooters where the opponent is tracked. My thought was to call it "Mark", as that is what it is called in Judd's Trials. Thoughts? -Sapphy (talk) 06:09, 19 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Seems like a good idea, assuming there is enough content to write. Just like how the page mobility covers movement abilities in general, you could create a "mark" or "tracking" page to talk about tracking abilities in general. If you want to bring your idea to life, feel free to boldly go ahead and get a draft started so others can build upon it. Heddy (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks! Sandboxes are a good place to put drafts, correct? -Sapphy (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Trig - 20:37, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I created it, thank you as well! -Sapphy (talk) 20:39, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, you could use a sandbox, or create any page title you wish in your user space. For example you could enter "User:Magewalrus!0/Mark" in the search bar to create a page with that name. Heddy (talk) 21:05, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Add back Upcoming version
Since Fresh Season 2023 is right around the corner, is it good for you to add back the upcoming version in the Welcome section? KPOfficial26 (talk) 13:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Name change
Can someone with the authority to do so, change my name. I sent in a request a while ago. Hescracked75 (talk) 19:38, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I'll ask to have your request processed. It should be done soon, within a day or so. Heddy (talk) 06:38, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

This has been bugging me.
I've been on Inkipedia for a while now, but I still don't know how to create a page. Can someone please tell me how? Octoknight (talk) 04:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Easiest way in my opinion is to use Special:WhatLinksHere and change the name to the page you want to create. Then, click the red link the search generates and make the page. Trig Jegman - 05:04, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I would just enter the page name in the search bar and follow the resulting link to create the page. Heddy (talk) 06:40, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Independent fan content wiki
Trig Jegman has created an interest check for a Splatoon fanon wiki, similar to how Pikipedia has a Pikmin Fanon wiki. Please register your interest here: User:Trig Jegman/Poll. Heddy (talk) 22:41, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

What Does This Mean???
So... I'm trying to edit my sandbox, and I can't save my edits because of some weird thing called "Error HTTP 404". What is that? 17:07, 26 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Because sandboxes have a “/“ in their title this prevents you from being able to use the visual edit feature. If you try to use this feature the message “Error HTTP 404" will pop up. For any page with a “/“ in the title you have to edit source.   17:57, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ohhh. So how do I prevent that? 18:04, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Until the issue is fixed, you will need to use the source edit button on that page. Heddy (talk) 18:58, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
 * For some further elaboration, this is an error on the developers of the Visual Editor, so it's not something we can actually do anything about ourselves. Trig Jegman - 20:36, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Anarchy Poisons

 * 1) The name Anarchy Poisons was not used anywhere prior to Version 3.0.0, leading to it being incorrectly labelled as a remix of Anarchy Rainbow on several pages. Should it be considered a derivative of Anarchy Rainbow at all?
 * 2) Each individual mix of Anarchy Poisons is currently listed separately - I believe they should be merged, as they are are three mixes of a single song and are never presented individually.  This page is a merged version of User:Sleepycricket's work.

07:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


 * It's a separate song (different title and artists listed) so its information in Anarchy Rainbow should be moved to a new page, with notes on the songs being variants of each other on both. All three Poison versions should be noted on a single page.
 * This question isn't notable and wide-scoped enough to require a new topic be made in Ink Pump; Talk:Anarchy Rainbow would be a much better fit. Yoshifan52 (talk) 08:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

How to convert .webp files to .png files
I am trying to convert the new 3.0.0 content from .webp to .png. How do you do that? KPOfficial26 (talk) 19:41, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


 * No need, I already used a safe tool called Zamzar to convert my images successfully. KPOfficial26 (talk) 21:41, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * If you've downloaded an internal/presskit Splatoon-related image and found it's in .webp format, it's very likely that you ripped it incorrectly. You should re-upload the images after performing a correct rip rather than keep a version of the image that's been through two conversions. Yoshifan52 (talk) 01:41, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Big Run
I fixed the decoration icons, can you add it to the Main Page now? KPOfficial26 (talk) 21:42, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Add Salmon Run King Salmonid to Salmon Run schedule on Main Page/S3
Due to the new King Salmonid system in Splatoon 3 that only one type will appear each shift, can you add it to the template on Template:S3Schedule/Salmon? The King Salmonids could be displayed in the form of a 2D icon such as or. KPOfficial26 (talk) 15:53, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


 * It appears that SplatNet 3, which is where third-party websites automatically get their data from, does not tell us ahead of time which King Salmonid will be in rotation. I am Not a web designer with knowledge of any specifics here, but I imagine this would have to be done manually at the moment, which could get bothersome if and when more King Salmonids are added to the mix. StarAdamStar (talk) 05:51, 4 March 2023 (UTC)