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Problems logging in
I went to Inkipedia's Spanish wiki to start editing (I speak Spanish because I was born and live in Latin America, and I thought it would be more useful there). I tried to log in but I couldn't. How do I fix it? --Sasha V. (talk) 22:53, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Other Languages
Are there any plans for other versions of Inkipedia besides English and French in the near future? Perfectionist (talk) 21:34, 15 October 2021 (UTC)


 * That depends on demand. The webmaster would likely agree to host a new language if a group of highly dedicated and motivated individuals ask for it. I think the low activity at the French Inkipedia shows that there isn't much demand for non-English Splatoon wikis. Heddy (talk) 00:36, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't a Japanese translation (along with some Japanese links/sources) be used a lot by the Japanese player base because of the amount of people in the Japanese player base is a lot larger than NA, OC and EU player bases respectively? (Note I am assuming this last fact but have done minimal research Splatoon 2 Sales World Wide) OctoCat (talk) 20:42, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * There are already at least two Japanese wikis that I know of. Why translate this wiki when they already have their own wiki? Heddy (talk) 10:30, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * But, that's not wiki.
 * The wikis' owners named it appropriately.
 * Actually, they write more detailed strategy information than this wiki. I know this fact.
 * However, this wiki is more infomation (such as stage schegule, splatnet 2 shop, etc...) in one website.
 * So we should make Inkipedia Japanese.
 * If Japanese version is made, I will DEFINITELY help with the translation! Haloji86 (talk) 14:46, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * However, this wiki is more infomation (such as stage schegule, splatnet 2 shop, etc...) in one website.
 * So we should make Inkipedia Japanese.
 * If Japanese version is made, I will DEFINITELY help with the translation! Haloji86 (talk) 14:46, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If Japanese version is made, I will DEFINITELY help with the translation! Haloji86 (talk) 14:46, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If Japanese version is made, I will DEFINITELY help with the translation! Haloji86 (talk) 14:46, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Weapon strategy main page
Currently the page linked from the main page is a category and that isn't really professional. I get the Squid400 has a page but it hasn't really gone foward recently. I'm trying on a draft and I'd like to see your thoughts. I'm trying to make it similar to the weapon page but instead is filled with competitive-minded stuff. Here's the page -> User:ChessMaster/Draft ChessMaster   [TALK]  21:16, 27 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Wow! I saw this and thought it was awesome! I bet you worked hard on it. :) /ꚍꚕ℮Ꮟ℮⍺Ꭶꚍ\  /:Tαℓк:\  23:21, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * You betcha I have! And it's not done yet! ChessMaster   [TALK]  23:34, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

What are Barnsquids?
I've seen a few people's user pages and all of them have these things called Barnsquids but I have no idea what they are, and I looked up Barnsquids on the wiki, found the page, read it, but still really don't understand, like how do I earn them? Or do I just stick them on my user page when I accomplish their requirements? Can someone please help explain. Tornado (talk) 19:54, 31 October 2021 (UTC)


 * you can just put barnsquids on your user page once accomplishing the requirements. For example, 10 edit barnsquids is for once you made at least ten main space edits. See Template:Barnsquids for help. BadTimeGamer123 (talk) 20:33, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok! :) ~ Tornado (talk) 01:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

I made some edits to the barnsquids page. Hopefully this makes it clear how to use them. Heddy (talk) 03:22, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Issues on my user page
Hello :) It's me again(sorry). I was trying to add a table of contents to my user page, but it shows up on the middle of my page and disappears when I try to edit the page and move it/remove it. Does anyone know what this is and maybe help me out? Thanks, 12:37, 1 November 2021 (UTC)SplatZ

New Page Idea
I did a bit of looking around and saw that there was no Page about the (disturbing) noises heard in the story mode, and I was wondering if I should create a page about it, or at least a section on the Octo Canyon page about it? thanks, 17:10, 5 November 2021 (UTC)SplatZ
 * It already is mentioned in the Easter Eggs page so I don't think a page is needed about it. ChessMaster   [TALK]  17:21, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't know about that, sorry. 13:07, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

suggestion…
I was wondering if we could make a page specifically about the new squidbeak splatoon if there isn’t one already… and maybe add more great turf war facts with a page for that?Octosquidfishyling?!?! (talk) {from Octosquidfishyling?!?!}

There's already a page about the Squidbeak Splatoon. Here it is. As for the Great Turf War facts... As far as I know, neither game really tells you much about the Great Turf War. But if you find anything in one of the artbooks or something, you're welcome to put it on the page! Making a page about the Great Turf War has the same problem as before--there's just not enough info. Hopefully they give us more in Splat 3. I appreciate your taking initiative though! Avery_TSP (conversing) 17:27, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh and here's the page for the New Squidbeak Splatoon. Avery_TSP (conversing) 17:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Great Tuf War is also a page already. (Click this for the page)  ChessMaster   [TALK]  18:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
 * aaa I didn't even realize! oh gosh that's embarrassing... Apologies for not doing my research beforehand >.< Avery_TSP  ( conversing ) 00:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

2021 user stats finalized
When the 2021 user stats were released early, it naturally did not include data from days that had not passed yet. Now that 2021 has completely passed, we have generated an updated report.

Enjoy the 2021 user stats! How much did you contribute to Inkipedia? Are you surprised at your ranking in the statistics? Heddy (talk) 22:16, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Definitely surprised by the amount I did :D  ChessMaster  ''' [TALK] 00:03, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Me too! 😁  00:22, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I joined in 2021 but started helping in 2022, so I did absolutely nothing lol Pixel Moone 21:55, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Signatures?
how do I make a signature?SplatMaster (talk) 00:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)


 * See the signature policy for help creating a signature. 15:39, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

New Splatoon 3 Manga?
There appears to be some leaks circulating about a Splatoon 3 arc in the manga. Should the main manga page be updated with this information? (Including the recent release of vol. 16 in Japan..?) Cynical Prince (talk) 03:20, 27 January 2022 (UTC)


 * It's already mentioned at the end of the plot summary section in Splatoon (manga). Shahar (talk) 07:23, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Q about adding links
Hey, I was trying to link Omega's page to another page, and since the page is called Omega (character) I was wondering if there was a way to make the link appear as "Omega" instead of "Omega (character)" just to make it look nicer. Thanks. 14:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Just format it like this: Omega . Hope it helps! 15:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! 15:53, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Manga characters that could use a page of their own
While I was uploading manga character images a little while ago, I kept track of the characters that don’t currently have a page. So I’ll list them here:

Characters that absolutely need a page: Fierce (Fierce Fishskull), Jet (Jetflame Crest), Justice (Eye of Justice), Laceless, Double Egg, and Red Sole.

Characters that could have a page but don’t really need one: Aviators, and Half-Rim.

Can we further discuss creating these pages here? Cynical Prince (talk) 16:49, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Although I’m not a huge fan of the manga I do agree that they need pages. I don’t know much about some of these characters, but I’ll definitely help work on these pages and might be able to make ones for some of them. :) 21:02, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If they desperately need doing and you have the information to go on, then feel free to have a go at creating any of the pages yourself! All help is good help! GloverMist (talk) 21:21, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I would definitely like to create pages for those characters, however, I kinda don’t even know how to create a page yet… If I knew how to though, the manga section would be in good shape to say the least. Cynical Prince (talk) 21:33, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * To create a page, go to the search menu and type the name of the page into it. Search it and then chose create the page. Type in stuff after that.  ChessMaster   [TALK]  21:36, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks! Cynical Prince (talk) 21:40, 28 January 2022 (UTC)


 * You can just copy the layout from another page and add your own text. 21:53, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

New Username
Hi, could someone tell me how to change my username?

Thanks, BadTimeGamer123 (talk) 00:41, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you just put in a request here: Inkipedia:Requests for Rename. Hope this helps. :) 00:49, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

.52 Gal Strategy Page
So I was reading up on the .52 Gal page (just bought it in Splatoon 2) and I saw there was no strategy page. Was this left out or something? I'm posting it here because I know nothing about online strategy except for Anchors, Skirmishers, Supporters, and Slayers and to annihilate all opponents recklessly, so I can't make this page. Can anybody tell me why this page doesn't exist or if someone who understands online strategy can create this page?

Thanks, Pixel Moone 21:53, 31 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Many competitive pages get added at times so it takes time for a specific page to be competitive. The ones that don't have pages aren't being left out on purpose, it usually takes time for them to be created (.52 Gal isn't the only one that doesn't have a page)  ChessMaster  ''' [TALK] 00:56, 1 February 2022 (UTC) (I can make it soon)
 * oh! okay! i didn't know that you guys were still working on it! wish i could help, but as i said i know nothing about strategy.
 * thanks!
 * ~ Pixel Moone 15:33, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Birthday
February 9th is my birthday but it says my birth day is tommorow?! Why? 15:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * You didn't follow the format of the Birthday template. Happy birthday. Shahar (talk) 17:26, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Octarian s3 section
So I noticed that in the Octarian page the table of contents lists no splatoon 3 section and there seems to be no information, I know we don’t have much but is it possible for me to work on it?? Octosquidfishyling?!?!  .^.^. (talk) 13:48, 12 February 2022 (UTC)


 * There is no need to ask to make improvements to the wiki. Be bold and go for it! Heddy (talk) 21:24, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Special Fonts not Showing???
So my sig has the Splatoon 2 font, but when I preview it on my laptop it just shows as Times New Romans?? Does anyone know if I can fix it? It shows on my phone. ( SplatTalk ) 09:11, 20 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Please share a link to your sig page or share your sig code. That way someone else can try to reproduce the problem. Heddy (talk) 21:22, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Moderation proposal
Some gaming-related wikis (like Kingdom Hearts Wiki and ConsoleMods Wiki) have an effective anti-abuse system in place: the Moderation extension. This is essentially a way for Inkipedia users to stop vandalism before it even happens! Is anyone interested in this? Discuss. Heddy (talk) 19:05, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * This system sends edits to a moderation queue (instead of making the edit publicly visible).
 * Patrollers and admins would be responsible for moderating edits.
 * A problem with this is that if staff are not diligently checking the queue, it may take a long time for edits to be published. If another user edits the same paragraph of the same article while an edit is pending moderation, an edit conflict can occur which must be manually merged.
 * It can be configured so that only new accounts are subjected to moderation. That's how I think we would use it, to limit the impact of moderation on legitimate users, and because we probably don't have enough staff to moderate many edits.
 * There is the option to promote users to "auto moderated". This would probably be used if a new user is making many edits, and we are certain they are unlikely to make abusive edits.


 * I read the page on MediaWiki and it seems cool to me, though I do feel like just the thought of having your edits rejected/approved by a group of admins would be quite intimidating to a newcomer, even if it won't do them any harm. Other than that, it looks great! 19:33, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, rejecting should only happen for vandalism, nothing else. All non-vandal edits, even "bad" edits, should be approved, so that editors can improve upon the edit, provide constructive feedback to the new editor, or revert it if necessary. Do you have any ideas for making this as un-intimidating as possible? Heddy (talk) 20:00, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you could say that Inkipedia uses the Moderation extension purely for vandals in a place that the average passerby could see, such as the main page, the "How can I help" page, etc.. What I meant to say before is that I would probably be discouraged from editing if I was told that every single edit I'd make was monitored by higher-ups without any further clarification, though I suppose somebody who isn't as shy or reticent as I am wouldn't care as much. To sum it up shortly, I think we should definitely clarify as much as possible about this extension and provide a link to the MediaWiki page for especially wary people. 20:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree (especially the "soften" part), but I suggest that the notice would be added on edit page itself. And maybe lower the "auto moderated" bar and mark the recently auto-moderated user's edits with red question marks (" ! ") until they are autopatrolled. — Exaskliri (talk | contribs) 03:38, 12 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Heck YES! I'm on board with this! This fart vandal needs to be gone FOR GOOD! They are starting to annoy me!  20:25, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Heddy; I have a few questions about this if it is approved. Do patrollers have access to this option to reject vandal-like edits and have access to their usual edit tools (Reverting, undoing, making small edits consecutively and save the page changes) like before?  21:17, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Everyone would still be able to access the normal edit tools. Moderation essentially adds an extra step for some edits - they won't appear in recent changes or page history until approved in the Moderation queue. Once approved, the edit will show in recent changes with the red exclamation mark, and you can do whatever needs to be done. Edits that are rejected in the Moderation queue will never show in page history or recent changes. We can probably set up a test site (separate from Inkipedia) where we may test out Moderation to see exactly how it works. Feel free to read the extension page for a description of how Moderation works. Heddy (talk) 11:02, 12 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm okay with it, since you stated that only vandalism would be rejected (hopefully mods are active enough) and a good-faith user would be granted "auto moderated" right. My suggestion, though, after the new user's edits are allowed to go through right away, mark their edits with red question marks (" ! ") for a few more substantial edits until they are autopatrolled. To compensate, 3 initial good, substantial edits should be enough to "auto moderate" a new user (in other words, lower the "auto moderated" bar). — Exaskliri (talk | contribs) 03:38, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree, we could set an automatic promotion to auto-moderate at 3 edits (and maybe 24 hour account age). The patrolling system would continue to work as normal, so auto-moderated edits would still have red exclamation points (unless the user is also auto-patrolled). Heddy (talk) 11:13, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I just learned that Kingdom Hearts Wiki stopped using Moderation because it was too much effort for them. KHWiki allows users to edit without an account, so they had a high volume of edits to moderate. The Moderation queue apparently has an Approve All button, so I'm hoping it's not too much time or effort to use. Something to think about and discuss: Is Moderation worth its drawbacks, considering we have so few vandals? Heddy (talk) 11:41, 12 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I think it's not worth due to its many drawbacks. We already have a quite big restriction that only registered users can edit. I think the moderation queue will add extra unnecessary work for the staff team. Instead we should strengthen the tools that directly affect vandalism: the abuse filters (temporary ones if necessary), the email requirement for that extra step for the vandals, the IPv6 bans if feasible, etc... Shahar (talk) 15:26, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I second Shahar for essentially the same reasons. For how relatively rarely actual vandalism happens, I don’t think it’s worth putting this roadblock on for everyone. A good idea, but I believe more faff than it’s worth. GloverMist (talk) 17:03, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Shahar Patrolling is extra unnecessary work, and yet we have a patrolling system, because we want to have a good wiki with high standards where every edit is reviewed. I view Moderation the same way, extra effort, but an extra effort that will raise our quality standards. Imagine a wiki that has ZERO vandalism, period. That's a reality, and for very little extra effort (since only new users would be moderated, and there's an Approve All button). Heddy (talk) 17:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I would like to reconsider what I said about this. Like GloverMist said on discord, if this only happens every two-ish years, then I don't think it would really be necessary to put this extension into effect, given the drawbacks. I was being rash before and only considering the present. (btw, did you block this vandal's IP address or just their account?) 17:17, 12 March 2022 (UTC)


 * @Princewave; This specific vandal keeps abusing VPN (Virtual Private Network), which hides the user's true IP-Adress with a different one to prevent identity theft. That is why we can't get rid of them.  17:43, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I agree with implementing the Moderation extension, it could help with checking new users edits for quality. The edits of new users are often not high quality and it can take a long time to patrol them. 15:58, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Patrolling would actually take a longer time with Moderation, because it's an extra step; edits first have to be approved in Moderation before they can be patrolled. The Moderation step is where edits are checked for violation of rules (only vandalism/spam/advertising/bullying is rejected. low quality edits are approved in Moderation). Then the patrolling step is where edits can be checked for quality, reverted or improved upon. Moderation cannot be used to check for quality because edits that are rejected in Moderation never show in page history. Heddy (talk) 18:51, 4 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Clearly I didn't quite understand the point of the Moderation extension. If Moderation is only for checking that edits follow the rules, then Moderation doesn't seem as useful to me. I think that if patrollers are already checking edits for rule breaking using Moderation, why can't they also check for quality. It seems to me that Moderation would just be adding an unnecessary step to the patrolling process, since the edits have to be essentially patrolled twice, first to check for vandalism and then for edit quality. That's just my opinion though. Thanks! 00:49, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The Moderation extension page explains it. The point is that vandalism is totally prevented. No vandalism ever appears in recent changes or page history. Patrolling recent changes can't prevent vandalism, because at that point it has already happened and you are just reverting it. Of course, we could simply disable the patrolling features and only use the Moderation features, which makes sense because everyone can check for quality of edits (not just Inkipedia staff) and staff would just use Moderation to check for rulebreaking. Heddy (talk) 12:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * So, with Moderation, the vandalism would never even be published, right? I agree that that could be helpful but there should be a way to disable the Moderation extension if there hasn't been any recent vandalism. There's only large-scale vandalism about once or twice a year, so Moderation wouldn't always be useful. Also, I understand if you don't agree with me, I don't want to start an argument.  15:11, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the moderation extension sounds like a great idea. That way folks can spend their time contributing to Inkipedia instead of having to chase after vandals to revert their edits. Also, like Heddy said above, I think a lot of users (I do anyways) quality check most edits on their own and improve what they can. 17:05, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree that it's only useful when there's vandalism. Based on the comments here, there are many people who don't want Moderation, so we won't enable Moderation on Inkipedia. Perhaps if vandalism got really bad, we could consider it again. Moderation will always be an option if the community here decides they would prefer a vandalism-free wiki. Heddy (talk) 20:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)