Talk:Main Page

Shouldn't the Zelda Wiki link be called Zeldapedia
Title pretty much sums it up. It's also the only one to not have an icon by the name. I didn't know if there was a reason why it's like this. DaRootBeer1231 (talk) 04:33, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Probably, I think the name only recently changed when they became independent again. Lyichir (talk) 14:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Do you mean zelda dungeon? Octogamingpro (talk) 17:11, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The official NIWA Zelda Wiki is entitled Zelda Wiki and is found at Zeldawiki.wiki. Trig - 17:28, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
 * oh uh okay Octogamingpro (talk) 17:29, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Fuzzy Icon
We need the fuzzy ooze icon on the fuzzy ooze page. It's shown in-game Callie's dialog. PS. We need inkwheel pics on it's page. Kensa Octo brush (talk) 05:13, 1 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Is that during the tutorial?
 * if so i can go and find it later (althought it can probably be datamined/pulled out of the game files)
 * And ill add the ink wheel images when i have time, thanks for pointing this out! LakePuddle 🗩 🖉 16:08, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I cannot co firm the fuzzy ooze icon is in Callie's dialogue. Can you elaborate? Dabbing-ChromeWolf.jpg Chrome Wolf S3 Big Man Render.png (🎙, 🗂). 12:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Confirm* Dabbing-ChromeWolf.jpg Chrome Wolf S3 Big Man Render.png (🎙, 🗂). 12:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Discuss this on the fuzzy ooze page. The main page discusssion is not the right place for this. Cruelty to Salmons (talk) 15:57, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Adding stages and Polls back
Are we going to bring back stages, polls, Splatnet 3 shop items, etc? I'm new to wikis so I'm not sure how to do this myself. Thoughts? Woomy? (talk)  23:04, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * You are allowed to start them if you'd like, but no one has motivation (especially for polls, Shahar had to pester people constantly to do those). Xandpochondria S3_Badge_Toni_Kensa_100.png 18:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * So how would we go about making a poll? Do we just go to the page, or do we have to do anything before? I would definitely like to make one, but I've never done one so if you could explain it I would be grateful! Stay fresh!
 * Frye 2D.png Clarinet.octo Marina 2D.png ( talk )Marie official artwork.png 20:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Your're going to have to ask @Shahar about that. Xandpochondria S3_Badge_Toni_Kensa_100.png 22:55, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok I will. Thanks a bunch!
 * Frye 2D.png Clarinet.octo Marina 2D.png ( talk )Marie official artwork.png 02:07, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

I HAVE A THEORY
'''okay so im assuming we ALL know who deadf1sh is. this is about her song, 14- crush. in the song it sounds all happy and cheerful, right? well the song has noises from what im assuming are the octarian army. this might be what she remembers from before getting sanitized because the song right after that, 16- salty, sounds terrifying. it sounds like what you would assume being sanitized would sound like. this might be me coming to conclusions but still.''' Omoriboy.. (talk) 17:46, 9 November 2022 (UTC)


 * This isn't what this page is for. DaRootBeer1231 (talk) 17:58, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello! I'm sorry to be the one letting you know, but this talk page is for discussing improvements to the main page, such as fixing bugs or issues. Comments or observations like this should be reserved for your sandbox or your user page. This is a very cool theory though, and I love your name! Thank you! ArivakiVA S2_Gear_Headgear_Golden_Toothpick.png JPTGoldDynamoRoller.png 17:58, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * That sounds about right cuz Sanitization's basically like losing ur free will, so Dedf1sh must have gone through a lot of pain. The things that I'm thinking is that all the songs are from different parts of her life. the missing song numbers could of been left out cuz she can't remember what happend then. And that explains why 2 songs are missing after 14# Crush. That was when she got sanatized.
 * Just sayin' but this should be in your user/sandbox page. Cool theory, tho. :) Lil&#39; Octoling (talk) 11:46, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Look at the top of the screen in Inkipedia. It says: No lore OR SPECULATION. Sorry, I just don't want you getting banned/reported. AbundantHero (or is he?) he is. (talk) 01:38, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * A: Please don't necropost. B: This post was made before that announcement was made. 01:57, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * woah that could be possible. nice theory!
 * the octoling girl 14:31, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Countdown
you know how there was a countdown to the release of Splatoon 3 on the main page? what if we added a countdown to the splatfest part too? that way it'd be easier for people to know when it is without having to worry about all that time zone translation madness.

Adalent (talk) 00:19, 11 November 2022 (UTC)


 * While having a one-time zone countdown would be nice, there are so many different time zones and many people in different countries that having a single countdown would not work. Having "time zone translation madness" isn't the right way to put it since many people view Inkipedia from all around the globe, and therefore it would be necessary for everyone to have their time zone added. For example, say that for me it is 1:00 am and for you it is 3:00 pm. This means we are in different days and our countdown would not be the same. That's why time zones are so imperative to a countdown. One would simply not be sufficient. Sorry, I hope this helped! Have a nice day!
 * Frye 2D.png Clarinet.octo Marina 2D.png ( talk )Marie official artwork.png 00:33, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Also what do you mean by one Splatfest countdown? Viewing of the time can be seen when you go to the kiosk for your team. We did have a Splatfest countdown, but there were many time zones. Sorry about the repetitive responses!
 * Frye 2D.png Clarinet.octo Marina 2D.png ( talk )Marie official artwork.png 00:35, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Let's say we'd do one, it would be in the one time zone that all wikis use: UTC. The same thing was with the Splatoon 3 countdown- it used utc. If a person so desperately needs to know when a splatfest is, then they could look up the utc to their time zone, because they are online if they're even on the site. Xandpochondria S3_Badge_Toni_Kensa_100.png 00:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * That's a more clear summary of what I was trying to say. Thank you for clearing that part up! I think bringing back the Splatfest countdown would be a great idea! I have no experience with anything like that so someone with experience would most likely have a good shot at it. I still wouldn't want to put pressure on anyone to do it.
 * Frye 2D.png Clarinet.octo Marina 2D.png ( talk )Marie official artwork.png 01:50, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * But all regions are having the splatfest simultaneously, you'd only need one countdown timer
 * Adalent (talk) 03:54, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that's true, though. My Splatfest time started two hours after the clock on the page. I'm sure we can just keep the Splatfest countdown as the date. I agree we should just wait and see.
 * Frye 2D.png Clarinet.octo Marina 2D.png ( talk )Marie official artwork.png 18:54, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
 * We wouldn't need a time zone, for example, the timer says "5 hours and 30 minutes left" that's not specific to any zone, but is universal to all. Wind Waker (talk) 17:57, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * And that's even if anyone is gonna check it. I'm not convinced we need a countdown. Xandpochondria S3_Badge_Toni_Kensa_100.png 18:35, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd check it. I hate having to figure out when it is in my time zone, and apparently I'm not the only one. Wind Waker (talk) 20:18, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * lets maybe wait until next splatfest to set it up though, seeing as this one starts in 2 hours
 * Adalent (talk) 22:11, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Ye Wind Waker (talk) 22:20, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * yeah I think that's a good idea, I always try to do it 1 hour before it starts FryedSoda (talk) 15:10, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * also maybe we could add a countdown to new seasons or big runs FryedSoda (talk) 15:13, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Image problems
I am putting this here 'Cause I don't know where else to put it.

This is a problem. I'm am trying to get images to my Third Sandbox. Link:User:Splat.girl/Sandbox 3.If the problem that I'm having works here then that's a big problem cause when I do it on my Sandbox 3 it does not work. I can show an example here: I will be trying a pic of evil Callie and this is what happens: S2 evil callie.jpg. That's the code for it but when I put it my Sandbox (3) it only shows the code not the pic. Thank you. Splat.girl Splat.girl (talk) 13:42, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello! Do you put [[File:S2 evil Callie.jpg]] Or do you leave the file part out? Putting it like how I showed would be the way it will come up. Can you describe the problem a little more? Also not sure if this is the right place to put this. Maybe the Inkipedia talk:Ink Pump.
 * Frye 2D.png Clarinet.octo Marina 2D.png ( talk )Marie official artwork.png 17:06, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The Ink pump is the best place to discuss this, as this talk page is mainly focused on the Main Page Dabbing-ChromeWolf.jpg Chrome Wolf S3 Big Man Render.png (🎙, 🗂). 18:59, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If I am wrong, forgive me Dabbing-ChromeWolf.jpg Chrome Wolf S3 Big Man Render.png (🎙, 🗂). 19:04, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Your right. This is not the right place to put my problem but little bit ago I saw that the pic was in a gallery. So I added the "File" part to it and then It worked. Splat.girl (talk) 22:12, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm glad it's resolved!
 * Frye 2D.png Clarinet.octo Marina 2D.png ( talk )Marie official artwork.png 00:19, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

New update
The chill season is here with 4 new weapons and 2 new maps. watch it here https://youtu.be/2Rm4T2K4XZI Coderlegendz (talk) 14:14, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * The main page discussion is not for announcing news or general site discussions. It is for discussing improvements to the main page itself. If you want to discuss this subject, use the ink pump. Cruelty to Salmons (talk) 16:51, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Unless it's something that should be put on the main page. …Which I was. Wind Waker (talk) 11:24, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, 'which it was' not "l" Wind Waker (talk) 11:28, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

The news is weird
So the nes on the main page has announcements for the splatoon 3 direct and amino trailer… BUT NOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE RELEASE OF SPLATOON 3?!? This is a serious oversight that MUST BE FIXED ASAP. Cruelty to Salmons (talk) 16:02, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * The release of Splatoon 3 was months ago, I agree that they should have put it on the page back then, but now that is in the past. 16:05, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure they did, but I could be wrong. :)
 * Frye 2D.png Clarinet.octo Marina 2D.png ( talk )Marie official artwork.png 18:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * They did but the news is only three items long so stuff gets pushed back. Xan S3_Badge_Toni_Kensa_100.png 18:41, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * They have an announcement for the direct on there which was before the release of splatoon 3, meaning if they had announced it it would be on there.  Cruelty to Salmons (talk) 16:00, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The news now tells stuff now, not in the past. Dabbing-ChromeWolf.jpg Chrome Wolf ChromeWolf logo.jpg (🎙, 🗂). 00:58, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Creators
maybe we could add a section for content creators? like ProChara and others? Bulbasaur24 (talk) 13:59, 17 November 2022 (UTC)


 * First, that isn't really what the wiki is about. It has to do with more of with in-game things and not people who play that game. There was a more fleshed-out response from an admin that was on here but I'm not sure where. Second, the Ink Pump is more of a place to put this, than here, as this is the spot to improve the main page. Xan S3_Badge_Toni_Kensa_100.png 14:06, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * oh ok thank u much Bulbasaur24 (talk) 16:06, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Big run schedule template
I saw there was a Big run template for it's schedule, so I was wondering if we should put it in the main page yet. 16:52, 4 December 2022 (UTC)


 * We could, if it works. Maybe bring this up to an admin for permission?  ArivakiVA    S2_Gear_Headgear_Golden_Toothpick.png JPTGoldDynamoRoller.png S3 Badge Classic Squiffer 5.png #3a0ccd talk #3a0ccd 19:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, it works alright! I'll talk to an admin about it. 19:41, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Template:Schedule/Big Run is pretty much functional (I think), if a little bit bodged-together 22:25, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Squid Squad Producer
I can't find a who squid squads producer and I saw it somewhere but now I can't anywhere does anyone know who they are KingHauYt (talk) 20:25, 10 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey @KingHauYt! I apologize, as I neither know who the producer of squid squad is, and that I regret to inform you that this page is for improving the main page. Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any more questions :) Xan  S2_Brand_Toni_Kensa.png S3_Splatfest_Icon_Spicy.png 01:29, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oops KingHauYt (talk) 13:26, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Subtitle
"We have 2,803 articles since 24 May 2015 and you can help by editing them!"

Although the sentance above looks gramatically correct, I don't think it's the best mainpage subtitle possible. I propose something along the lines of

"Thank you for contributing towards our 2,803 articles since May 24, 2015!"

Thoughts? - Xan   02:11, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Good idea!! I think something like "We have created 2,807 articles since May 24 2015, and you can help contribute to them!" sounds better. I feel saying the reader can help out encourages people who haven't edited yet to join our team. Saying thanks is sweet, though.  18:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I like that idea! Lofiguy Splatoon - Squid 2D orange.png S2 Weapon Main Kensa Splat Roller.png ( talk ) 02:32, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Splatnet 3
should we add a section for the splat 3 stage rotation and splatnet shop? i know it was there for splat 2 so why not 3?

Adalent (talk) 04:48, 31 January 2023 (UTC)


 * From what I know, it's not a huge priority at the moment, but if you'd like to start it you can. Try creating some templates on a sandbox like this one! Click the link and it will lead you straight there! -Xando (ping) 13:01, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
 * uhh, what link? Adalent (talk) 02:33, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I think Xan meant the link to your Sandbox. Here it is: User:Adalent/Sandbox.  02:46, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Japanese
Idea: for Japanese speaker: we should make a new language of this in Japanese I could help since I know Japanese pretty well 𝚂𝚑𝚒𝚟𝚎𝚛𝟷𝟶𝟷 00:13, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Do you mean that we make this page (or a copy) in a Japanese version? It does seem fitting as Nintendo is more or less a Japan originated franchise, but making that would most likely be a lot bigger than a few people knowing basic Japanese. Maybe this would be a good idea to utilize your Sandbox? I would love to help out with this idea if it does ever become a reality.

Clarinet.octo  ( talk ) 00:47, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Should we add polls?
Most of the other NIWA wikis have polls on their front page, should we add one? Lofiguy (talk) 14:38, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

sure InkMan (talk) 16:13, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * yes DEADLINE (talk) 00:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


 * We used to do them:

17:28, 9 October 2022‎ Shahar talk contribs‎ m 451 bytes −20‎  Removed the poll widget as there is no longer an interest to maintain it (was me for 4 years swapping polls and reminding people to swap) Most of the interest kinda floundered (heh) so they were discontinued. There has been a question of the day running in the Inkipedia Discord, but I don't believe there are plans to return to having polls at this time. Trig - 19:55, 9 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I would like to help make polls if we do that. I have no idea how, but I'd love to participate! S3 Tableturf Card Toni Kensa.png ℂ𝕝𝕒𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕥.𝕠𝕔𝕥𝕠 S3 Tableturf Card Annaki.png ( ℙ𝕣𝕒𝕥𝕥𝕝𝕖 ) 01:27, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I would participate too :) Lofiguy (talk) 02:23, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I wanna help too! Libby (talk) 15:24, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I like the idea of polls, especially for splatfests FryedSoda (talk) 12:33, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd love to help manage polls if someone taught me how to do them. they were amazing when they were still on the wiki! Six-claws (talk) 12:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * agreed FryedSoda (talk) 12:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Kraken Royale
He kraken is coming back, but why is no one talking about it?![Https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/02/watch-out-the-kraken-is-making-a-comeback-in-splatoon-3 https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/02/watch-out-the-kraken-is-making-a-comeback-in-splatoon-3] BackintotheInk (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * He already made the page, Kraken Royale 16:08, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * well i'll hav u know that i told my friends about kraken and they were like: o k a y Octogamingpro (talk) 18:30, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Add Big Run
Big Run was announced on Inkblot Art Academy, please add it to the main page with Main Page/Big Run. KPOfficial26 (talk) 14:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


 * welp, the Horrorboros trophy images are now visible on Main Page/Big Run and idk who to ping to get this looked at/put onto onto the main page 01:36, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't this be taken down now? 1Sebeastian (talk) 23:04, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Odds
Does anyone know the odds of the special waves in salmon run:next wave? WDEFGHJKS (talk) 01:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


 * It should be on their pages, if not someone will get on to adding that Ratch S2_Gear_Headgear_Golden_Toothpick.png JPTAerosprayRG.png S3 Badge E-liter 4K 5.png S Weapon Special Inkstrike.png 02:15, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you for the info, I looked and nothing showed up. WDEFGHJKS (talk) 16:50, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Splatoon 3 New Songs names.
So i just edit the website. But somehow when i did the name didn't aline together Zipcasty (talk) 02:33, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello! First off, it's unclear what you're trying to say. Second, this page is meant for improvign the main page. You'd probably want to go to the talk page for the page you were trying to edit. If this impacts multiple pages, go to the ink pump. Thanks! -Xando (ping) 12:58, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Salmon run: next wave schedule bug (within Main Page/S3) - does not show Big Runs, might break during the Big Run
(yes, I know, Main Page/Big Run does show the upcoming Big Run so this is a bit of a moot point, but documenting this bug anyway in case it causes issues during the Big Run) Anyway, as mentioned in the title, the automated Salmon Run: Next Wave schedule thing within Main Page/S3 does not appear to show Big Runs. It shows the current rotation, and the rotation that'll be up after the Big Run, but not the Big Run.

Seeing as that element in that page is an element, and idk where the source code for it actually is so I can't take a look around it for myself, it might be worth taking a look at it to fix the bug if you do know where the code for it actually is. 12:06, 2 March 2023 (UTC)


 * what Gortonw12 (talk) 10:34, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Gortonw12 The salmon run stage schedule shows the rotation after the big run but not the actual big run rotation. Hope this helps. Xando S3 Badge Level 999.png 17:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Kovopedia
Kovopedia is yet to be added to the NIWA infobox, and its protected so I'm unable to do it myself

Adalent (talk) 00:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Big Run
I'm Mr.Grizz's staff. Gortonw12 (talk) 10:29, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


 * This is for discussing the main page. 22:58, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Splatoon
I'm a big fan of splatoon. Gortonw12 (talk) 10:34, 3 March 2023 (UTC)


 * This is for discussing the main page, but that's good to hear! 22:58, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree with @Lofiguy on both points. the octoling girl 14:38, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Big Run announcement
It has been a while since the Big Run was concluded. Could someone who is able to edit the Main page remove the notice? Thank you :)  20:58, 29 March 2023 (UTC)


 * this was discussed in the discord a while back (about a week after it ended), the consensus was to have both the splatfest and big results on the main page at all times
 * Adalent (talk) 08:49, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok! Thanks for letting me know :)  10:55, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Splatfest Updating Topic
Tell all you know about the current Splatfest or future ones here! Marigold (talk) 15:26, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Starting with, Reply to this topic with your Nessie vs Aliens vs Bigfoot team! Which one is real? I'm Team Nessie! Marigold (talk) 15:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * This isn't quite what this talk page is for. I would suggest initiating this conversation on your talk page or by joining our Discord. Trig Jegman - 18:08, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * i was team alien Octogamingpro (talk) 17:09, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Sploteen
For some reason the main page says "The free and editable Sploteen wiki." I have no idea why. 1Sebeastian (talk) 22:01, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Happy April Fools Day!! EeveeBest11 (talk) 22:29, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, was that a prank? 1Sebeastian (talk) 23:01, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. Trig - 16:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * coz it is free and it is editable Octogamingpro (talk) 09:35, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Should we have directions to pages that need work?
Just what the title says. I saw some other NIWA wikis have it, like the SSB wiki. SpicyBoi   01:32, 2 April 2023 (UTC)


 * It's no official page, but I use User_talk:Trig_Jegman/Project_Clean-Up for specific page quality and this page as a whole for improving the site. Generally speaking, Cross Wiki Week's page, the stubs category, this maintenance page, and the current projects page take care of like, 95% of things that need done. Trig - 04:05, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think they should just alert people on twitter.-__- Octogamingpro (talk) 07:56, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Eggsta Work on MP
Would EW be main-page worthy? I was thinking of some ideas if it was.

1) Replace Big Run widget with a Salmon Run Event widget instead (update it so that it has the next/most recent event on it)

2) Add in an eggstra work widget

3) Do nothing (If it's not noteworthy)

Thoughts?

-Xando (talk) 17:01, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The template is already made. It would make sense to remove the big run widget when it's added. 21:16, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Just put it in the salmon run page .job done. Octogamingpro (talk) 13:02, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * 🦑🦑🦑🦑 Octogamingpro (talk) 13:04, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, please remove that thing you did with the Octoball just now. It's very unnecessary and takes up a lot of space on this talk page. 13:15, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * uh how? Also it was an accident.so sry Octogamingpro (talk) 17:12, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I removed it. Don't worry. 17:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you Octogamingpro (talk) 17:17, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks all for your thoughts. There is now a Main Page/Special Event module to display Splatfest/Big Run/Eggstra. 23:48, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh i just saw that...good job! Octogamingpro (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Salmon run Rotation
Shouldn't the rotation on the website contain the boss of the current rotation if anyone has a reason on why this is not a think please tell me MangoTango (talk) 18:06, 9 May 2023 (UTC)