User talk:Hewer

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Marina
Why are you revert my edit, 3-UP Hewer? I fixed the grammar and tense errors that you made when you edited the page. At Inkipedia, we use American English grammar and spelling. Please try not to post grammatically incorrect text.

Sorry but I'm not sure what you're talking about. I reverted no edits, only made my own, and I'm pretty sure I used American English grammar.3-UP Hewer (talk) 21:31, 29 January 2021 (UTC) My use of past tense was due to Splatfests no longer occurring, if that is what you mean.3-UP Hewer (talk) 21:38, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * You undid my edit to the Marina page. Also, Splatfests are still happening as of date in Splatoon 2. 22:17, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

I am sorry, if I did reverse your edit I did not intend to do so and only was attempting to correct the page's grammar.3-UP Hewer (talk) 22:20, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Well you were actually making the page's grammar incorrect. Please refer to a grammar guide if you are having trouble understanding this. 11:32, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Order of navbox
I've noticed you changed the order of some of the navboxes, may I ask why do you think it is a better sorting than what is currently which is alphabetically? Shahar (talk) 20:39, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I just think it makes more sense and looks neater to put things in a more logical order. 3-UP Hewer (talk &middot; contributions) 07:10, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Please stop changing the order of navboxes, the current order just looks like one person's interpretation of importance, there's a reason why there's notes, it's to keep things organized and help newcomers and avoid changing the order like what you are doing. Please undo your edits. Shahar (talk) 12:49, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Not intending to be disrespectful, but as I've said, the notes are useless because anyone could figure out the order just by looking; if it's that important to prevent newcomers from changing the order, we could just semi-protect the navboxes or put hidden notes on them. As for the orders, I think that the ones I have been using are more organized and make navigation easier, and isn't really a debatable interpretation that, say, Judd is more important than Ammoses Shellendorf. Besides, there already were a few navboxes where we did order things this way, like the weapon navboxes, the 'Enemies' sections from the character navboxes, and the Octarians navbox. If there really is a lot of disagreement over this, then I suppose I could try a proposal/vote, though I'm not fully sure how those work on this wiki. 3-UP Hewer (talk &middot; contributions) 13:03, 17 October 2021 (UTC)


 * You are welcome to open a discussion in Ink Pump or in Discord, the notes are not useless as many people might not know how things were sorted out or how they were grouped, (such as what is rarity on gear and why was it grouped in a certain way), it's a harmless note. About the weapon navboxes, they were sorted by how the game sorts them: by main, sub and special. They are already grouped by classes so it makes sense to sort them that way. Please do not revert things without discussion as it just adds unnecessary edits. Alphabetical order is the best for sorting out lists. Shahar (talk) 13:23, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I was referring to how the weapons within each section were ordered, which is the same style of ordering that I've been implementing into the navboxes. To me, it seems more consistent if all navboxes have the same style of ordering. Also, rarity is brought up on every single page about gear, so a reader seeing the navbox on one of those pages can definitely be expected to know what rarity is, and in every other case, a person intelligent enough to read and understand the wiki probably knows what alphabetical or chronological order is and could tell what order is being used with a single look at the navbox. Hewer (talk &middot; contributions) 13:45, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi Hewer, firstly, thank you for your recent contributions! As Shahar points out, for big changes, we tend to discuss them on Discord or Ink Pump first. Though I'd argue that the ordering in a one-off way is not a big change, to standardize everything becomes a lot of work. A change to navbox would affect virtually the whole site. It's these sweeping changes we discuss first to make sure we've considered what's already there, and if there's an appetite for it.

I also want to dissuade you from removing content, as it can be seen as vandalism. Cleaning up articles is absolutely okay, and re-wording to be easier to read is to be encouraged. What is not good is to remove content through clean-up, which includes notes left. If it was discussed first, edits like this would have been resolved to a "this should be a note on the template page but not included in the articles, to help future editors understand why this order was chosen."

Each article is in a set layout, and changing of this layout, again, should be discussed. Remember, each page may be the first that a new reader sees, and will not necessarily know about the nomenclature we use here. Helping new readers like with the edit you made here is good.

Happy editing, 15:59, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice. Hewer (talk &middot; contributions) 16:05, 17 October 2021 (UTC)