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Image fix
I kinda screwed up. I tried adding an image in Splatfest Tee and instead of the image, the image URL was there instead. Could anyone either fix that or re-do it? I'd also like to know how I can place an image on a page, if anyone could show me how.

Thanks, --Sigma (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2015 (UTC)Sigma


 * You should post this on the talk page for the page you edited, but it's fine. The wiki doesn't allow using images from external websites, for several reasons. You'll have to get the image from the website, uploaded to the wiki, carefully pick the license, and only then can you use it. – EspyoT 15:58, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

How do I pick the liscense?

--Sigma (talk) 16:49, 3 August 2015 (UTC)Sigma

Uploading Images
I tried to upload a new file of the Team Rock logo image on the Splatfest page and it uploaded it four times. What do I do? And can somebody delete the unwanted ones?

--Sigma (talk) 16:37, 17 August 2015 (UTC)Sigma


 * Heh, you're okay. Look at the New Files. See, it's just got one Team Rock logo. Looks like you just edited the same file four times. Happens to the best of us. 😛--Bzeep!  talk  01:28, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I was trying to upload one without the crescent, yet it says thats the current one even though I reverted it. Any way you could help me with that?


 * Also, I was wondering, how do you make your own signature? --Sigma (talk) 02:28, 18 August 2015 (UTC)Sigma


 * Erm.. well, if you.. see the correct image, you know you're not wrong. If it doesn't look wrong, then it isn't. I'm looking at it and it looks fine. Nobody can even see the previous versions of the file unless they actually... go looking for them.


 * And to make a unique signature, go to Special:Preferences. See the thing that says "New signature"? In there you can put whatever you want your signature to look like. Like, to make mine orange and have an exclamation mark, I've got:




 * So yeah. Play around with it if you want. Once you have something you like, you can put it in Template:Patrollerlist.


 * --Bzeep!  talk  02:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


 * To create a custom signature like Bzeep's, also be sure to check the "Treat signature as wiki text" box. Otherwise it will not work. Learned that the hard way. - IanMS00   talk 03:27, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Oh, thanks guys!

How does it look? --Sigma   talk 16:32, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I think it looks pretty good. You can also add a link to your talk page (or your contributions, too) if you wanted to. - IanMS00   talk 16:37, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Great. Now you can put it into Template:Patrollerlist. - IanMS00   talk 20:25, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Deletion
Okay, can somebody tell me why my weapon images are being deleted when I uploaded them first? Mine weren't duplicates, the others were.

--Sigma   talk 19:36, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


 * We use a strict file-naming system, and yours were most likely incorrectly named. Inkling luke.png (Inkling talk.png) 20:08, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Okay, got it. --Sigma   talk 20:52, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Archives
Are we going to archive this page, as the amount of messages has reached 25, and the size is too large. Thanks!--Adster1005 (talk) 10:32, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks! ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 21:16, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

A Quick Question
I was wondering if there is anything more that I could help wilth or add?--Snowwarrior92 (talk) 04:01, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Need help Rewording Some Octovalley Missions.
Sorry for bugging, but can someone help me edit Mr squid‎'s work on some of the Octo Valley Missions? It seems that they are kind out of place and not really descriptive or helpful. Sorry if it seems that I am being very critical. --<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 07:48, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

I saw that! Mr Squid (talk) 17:56, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Administration
(yes I'm 'trying' to run for admin) I just want to know if I have to create a page or do I have to go to a specific page to run for Admins? Ikakizzu 14:42pm, 24 January 2016 (GMT)
 * The page you want is Inkipedia:Requests for Rights. I suggest you work towards becoming a patroller first though. 15:07, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

CheckUser
In light of the recent spam, I feel this could be a valuable resource in case some of the spammers stem from the same IP address. Could we install this extension and allow admins and bureaucrats to use it? 22:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Prod's already working on it. 😛 --<font face="Corbel"><font color="#f2992e">Bzeep!   <font face="Corbel"><font color="#f7c282">talk   22:19, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Blogs
Can I just raise awareness that there are blogs, you can create your own blog or comment on others' blogs -- Adster1005 Talk Page 16:56, 27 January 2016 UTC
 * Ah yeah they don't get used a ton. I can't speak for anybody else, but.. I just don't have anything to blog about, really. I think their original implementation had something to do with the fact that Wikia uses em a lot, but they don't see much use here. And I don't mean that like its a bad thing! It's a nice feature to have for community announcements and whatever else, but I guess most people just don't have much to say. :y --<font face="Corbel"><font color="#f2992e">Bzeep!   <font face="Corbel"><font color="#f7c282">talk   20:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

pages
I would want to know how to get the page "Special Pages" and "User Creation Log" on my User page. Ikakizzu 17:56pm 1 February 2016 (GMT)
 * Special:SpecialPages for the list of special pages; I don't know how to link to the User Creation Log. Use squiggly brackets to transclude. 20:52, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Special:Log/newusers 10:35, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

YouTube Video Links
I was thinking if we could put YouTube video links for help like thatsrb2dude or Nintendome on weapons or stages pages or is it against the copyrighting law. Ikakizzu 16:55pm, 2 February 2016 (GMT)
 * Simply linking is not a breach of law (and I doubt embedded is either). It's whether we want to do it -- who's to say what makes a "good quality" video? If we start linking to DUDE or Hank then someone's gonna say "Hey, what about my 5 second video?", and at that point we'll need a policy. 10:34, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Help With Making Walkthroughs
Does anyone know how to wright walkthrough? I need some help figuring out how to write walkthroughs for Octovalley. Snowwarrior92
 * I think the first mission has a decent walkthrough you can borrow ideas from. 10:31, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Could I get an opinion?
I need an opinion on some of the work that I did for the Octovalley mission-Octosniper Ramparts. --Snowwarrior92 (talk) 22:20, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

What is with all the phone number spams?
it is bugging me, is it revenge? or spam Ikakizzu
 * Just spam most likely; most wikis get hit with similar spam. ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 18:48, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Category:DLC to Category:Downloadable content
I don't think it should be abbreviated. A bot could easily change it. Luke (talk) 13:39, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It's easier to type for editors adding pages to the category. We could have DLC as a redirect category. But yes, very easy for the bot to change it if that's what we wanna do. I don't mind either way. 14:05, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Are we really expecting much more DLC anyway? It will just be gear if anything I'd say. Luke (talk) 18:41, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm cool with moving the category, too - having the full name seems better than an abbreviation. ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 20:11, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Support move with DLC becoming a redirect, mainly per Kjhf. 21:13, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Userboxes
I've suddenly noticed userboxes popping up everywhere! 3 Questions:
 * 1) Can we make our own?
 * 2) Is there a page for userboxes?
 * 3) Will there be anymore userboxes, because I've only seen 2 - time on inkipedia and male. --Adster1005 (talk) 18:38, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Sure!
 * You can find out by checking the templates derived from Template:Userbox. We could make a category in future or have a list on the Userbox template or subpages...
 * There's more like Template:RankS, and of course editors can make more.
 * 19:12, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

How do we make them though, or is it on the template page? Adster1005 (talk) 19:51, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Make a new template page with it, e.g. Template:NewUserbox (except a better name). I suggest copying the code from another userbox page like RankS, then changing it to match what you want to do.
 * 21:01, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Help
I need some help with my table. I've put it under my Splatfest Results section, but it comes up under awards, I have literally just noticed it. Adster1005 (talk) 19:49, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks like you forgot to put the end of the table back when you made a new row. :b Mind if I fix it or do you want to? --<font face="Corbel"><font color="#f2992e">Bzeep!   <font face="Corbel"><font color="#f7c282">talk   20:17, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Go ahead, I don't mind! &#123;&#123;SUBST:nosubst&#124;User:YourUserName/Sig&#125;&#125; (talk) 20:21, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * On a side note can I have some help with my signature please &#123;&#123;SUBST:nosubst&#124;User:YourUserName/Sig&#125;&#125; (talk) 20:23, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * For a simple signature, go to Special:Preferences, type this is the signature box " User:Adster1005 (talk) ", and make sure to tick treat signature as wikitext. Luke (talk) 20:34, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I want a different signature, like AmbientDinosaurs. &#123;&#123;SUBST:nosubst&#124;User:YourUserName/Sig&#125;&#125; (talk) 20:36, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Instructions on Inkipedia:Policy/Signatures. You forgot to change YourUserName to Adster1005. 21:03, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Recon
We should redirect Recon to the ability and put a redirect notice on it since Recon usually refers to the ability, not the mode. Thoughts?

16:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I see them both mentioned about as equally frequently, so I think it's best as is. 20:31, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Same, neither one is insignificant enough to redirect to the other imho. --<font face="Corbel"><font color="#f2992e">Bzeep!  <font color="#f7c282">talk  15:05, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Snow vs Sand
I have the deets for The upcoming Splatfest:

Oh I can see it has already been done. gtKaged
 * The European/Australian launch/results time have no relevance since it's happening in North America anyway. Inkling luke.pngInkling talk.png 20:45, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Octo Valley Quotes
I have several Octo Valley quotes that I am not sure where I should place them. If anybody has an idea of where they should go, please let me know.--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 06:18, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Ability Charts
To combat the startling lack of charts on this wiki, I went ahead and made some for Ink Saver (Sub), Special Charge Up, Special Duration Up, and Special Saver. Please give me feedback - can they be improved, do they fit in with the wiki, are there mistakes, etc. Heddy (talk) 03:34, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks mostly good to me, but I have a few questions/suggestions:
 * Do we need the images? I'm an abstract thinker, so I don't know if they make things clearer for others or just take up space.
 * Make the table sortable and split up the quantities into a main and sub column.
 * 18:09, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm certain the images underneath the X axis are necessary, because when I made a chart without them, someone asked me how to calculate the ability point value.
 * To clarify, I made the charts to the right of the tables, not the tables. Heddy (talk) 19:27, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, whoops. My b, the charts look great. 21:35, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Rainmaker (Weapon)
I'm currently considering to film a Rainmaker weapon demo. Should we create a Rainmaker weapons page with all its stats and treat it like an actual weapon in the wiki? Splatoon Wikia made a page for it already. If need be, I can try and estimate the weapon's stats by using weapons similar to it. (Charge time, mobility, damage, or anything else) /Syl (talk) 18:24, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Since it can't be owned, has no turf count, and isn't considered Main/Sub/Special, I'd say it's not even a weapon in the first place. It doubt it needs its own page - Splatoon Wikia isn't exactly an exemplar, eheh. --<font face="Corbel"><font color="#f2992e">Bzeep!  <font color="#f7c282">talk  19:04, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I suppose it would've been fun to try and find the stats, but alright. I'll upload it to the main Rainmaker page when I'm done with the Rainmaker weapon demo.
 * /Syl (talk) 19:17, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, a demonstration'll still be cool, thanks man. ✌️ --<font face="Corbel"><font color="#f2992e">Bzeep!  <font color="#f7c282">talk  19:19, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd be up for a Rainmaker weapon page provided we could get enough content for it. We already have weapon trivia and gallery on the current Rainmaker page, and if we could get stats for it I think it would qualify. 20:43, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If we can get precise weapon data, I'd be fine with this. 21:19, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Got it. I'll use relative data from other weapons to make it as precise as I could. Shouldn't take too long. /Syl (talk) 21:26, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I got the data. Here it is: Mobility: 25/100 (Compared with the Hydra Splatling). Charge Speed: 52/100 (Compared with the Splatterscope). Range: 78/100 (Compared with the Heavy Splatling).
 * /Syl (talk) 18:30, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I can't seem to find any weapon stats for the rainmaker in the game's files. I can only find the stats for the shield that surrounds the rainmaker. So if a rainmaker page is made, please don't try to list any imprecise stats. Just say "similar to hydra splatling", "similar to splatterscope", etc. Heddy (talk) 03:36, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I compared most of the stats to weapons I found they would be similar to. It seems as though the range is exactly the same as a Heavy Splatling. Mobility is just a tiny bit better than Hydra Splatling or the same. Charge Speed is just a tad faster than Splatterscope (by 0.1-0.2 seconds). If I make the page, I'll likely add a footnote that the stats are an estimate and what weapons were used to find the estimates.
 * /Syl (talk) 03:40, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Hero Mode Gallery
I finally finished uploading the hero mission galleries. Just a few more photos of collectibles and mechanics and I will be done collecting images.

By the way I would like to apologize for not finishing sooner (I had been hospitalized).--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 05:17, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You need to stop apologising! You are an amazing, consistent editor! Nobody has set a deadline for you to be finished, and you didn't even have to do this. Being hospitalised is nothing to apologise over. Have fun and only edit if you can and want to! Inkling luke.pngInkling talk.png 21:59, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

You're right, I have been having fun collecting images and setting up charts. Sorry about apologizing (it's how I was raised). I guess I will only apologize when I make a mistake or something of that nature. --<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 23:03, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * "Sorry about apologizing" :3 00:42, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Can I please get some help? I'm new!
Hello anyone who's reading this, I'm new and I don't even know how to add pictures to my user page. This is so confusing and I want to know if I can put abilities with the assigned gear. (Ex: A snorkel mask with 1 main damage up, 1 sub damage up 1st, 2 special durations up) Idek how to do this, but I think you know how you can help! Aquastarz13 (talk) 23:54, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Use this URL http://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Special:Upload to upload something. Mygame34 (talk) 21:34, 23 April 2016 (UTC) 04:34, 23 April 2016 (CT)

Graffiti Question
I was wondering if adding photos of the different types of graffiti found in the game would be helpful. It wouldn't be to hard for me to hunt down several photos and place them on the proper page--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 01:09, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Competitive Teams
I was wondering if you can put every competitive team into one page, so like all the LUTI teams and EndGames go all in one page so it would be easier to edit, or is there one already? gtKaged 9:59, 10 April 2016.
 * Isn't that just Category:Teams? MindWanderer (talk) 21:03, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Walkthrough Collaboration
I was wondering if anyone would like to work together to properly finish writing the walkthrough sections for the Octo Valley missions?--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 06:20, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Competitive callouts
We should have callouts for all the stages. 02:16, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Map overviews with callouts can be found here. Some overviews are missing labels and some of the callouts are unnecessarily detailed, but it's a good starting point if someone wants to create some images with streamlined callouts. Heddy (talk) 22:48, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I made the Callouts page, and I put my squad's labeled map overviews there. Callouts aren't universally agreed on for maps, but hopefully those are good enough examples. Heddy (talk) 20:57, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Fonts for signature?
How do I do fonts? Do I just type them up in Word? Mygame34 (talk) 21:31, 23 April 2016 (UTC) 04:30, 23 April 2016 (CT)
 * You can use some HTML tags with CSS, <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS, cursive">like this . However, only fonts supported on the viewer's browser will be displayed properly. MindWanderer (talk) 21:03, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

gridlines vs. no gridlines
Which of these looks better? File:Quick Super Jump vs Quick Respawn Chart.png or File:Suction Bomb Ink Saver Berry Splattershot Pro Chart.png. I just don't know whether these should have an uninterrupted flow of colors or tidy gridlines. Heddy (talk) 00:56, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

I personally think that the chart without the gridlines looks much better than the one with the girdlines.--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 01:07, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... I think it looks nicer without, but if it's too hard to read you could try playing with the colors of the lines. White might be cute. --<font face="Corbel"><font color="#f2992e">Bzeep!  <font color="#f7c282">talk  03:22, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That's 2 squids so far that prefer no gridlines. I don't actually know if readability is an issue so that's why I'm asking. Here's some tests with white and other colors. Heddy (talk) 23:09, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The version without outlines isn't very easy to read as a thumbnail, but it looks great. I would go with Bzeep's suggestion of changing the outline color to be less intrusive. 23:16, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Inkling Photos
I've got several photos of various Inklings found within my plaza. I was wondering if we could potentially use them somewhere on the site?--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 02:12, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply; I've been pretty busy lately. To answer your question, I'd advise not uploading them unless they depict something that we don't have a lot of pictures for. 15:16, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * That's alright, I've been pretty busy myself. Thanks for clearing that up and I will go over the photos and look for photos that sight doesn't have.--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 02:30, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

How can I make helpful edits?
Hello. I've been on Inkipedia for a while, and some of my edits seem to be reverted. Does anyone have tips for me to make helpful edits?

(P.S. I would also like a moderation template.)

All Hail Webmaster Prod! 15:14, 21 May 2016 (UTC)


 * What I like to do is click the random page button then see if there is anything I can fix on whatever page I get. Mostly just small grammar mistakes, but sometimes there's formatting problems or more images needed. Also, you can always check out the "How can I help" page. It lists all the stubs, badly written articles, pages in need of images, and the like. Hope that helps! ;) Skylar (talk) 03:39, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Try looking at the New pages list and efiting pages there. I find that the newer pages have a lot more spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes; thpos; and need more information.

15:51, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you meant to link Special:NewPages. Heddy (talk) 15:56, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Updated Mission Briefing Charts
I was wondering if I should keep the old charts for Octo Valley Missions or should I use the newer charts that I recently created? --<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 05:55, 24 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Hrm... these are more visually interesting, but the old ones feel more concise and compact. I'm leaning towards them, but if you can get the new ones to work without making the page look too bloated, go ahead. :b --<font face="Corbel"><font color="#f2992e">Bzeep!  <font color="#f7c282">talk  10:42, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The new ones look good, but the images should probably be made a bit smaller (say, 35px or so). 10:48, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I can easily make the images smaller, but I'm not sure how to keep the charts from cluttering up the page. Any suggestions would be appreciated.--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 11:33, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Could we use this?
I was wondering if we could use something like this for the mission briefing portion of Octo Valley Mission walkthroughs?--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92 07:39, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

Something to improve this page?
I see a lot of old discussions on the ink pump, some of which are not relevant anymore, such as the Snow VS Sand splatfest info. Could we delete old discussions, or make it a rule that you have to delete them if they become irrelevant? I would be willing to help with this, but I thought it would be best to throw this out there first to see what admins think. I don't want to break any rules by deleting other people's' conversations or anything. Skylar (talk) 03:35, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It's almost always a good idea to keep talk page conversations for precedent, so I'd say no. 11:02, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright, I understand. Skylar (talk) 02:41, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The Ink Pump has an archive. Once this page becomes long and filled with older discussions, they can be moved there. ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 04:59, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

More suggestions
Sorry ya'll, I know I ask a lot, but I think I have some good ideas.

1)Maybe make a page where people new to Inkpedia can comment, ask for help, and whatnot so other people can find them more easily and help out.

2)A tutorial page on basic wiki coding. Personally, I started learning how to edit by making my profile look nice, so maybe a tutorial on that? It has practically everything you need to start editing.

3)A page kind of like this one, except where people can just talk about the game and offer strategy tips. I think there might be something like this already, does anyone know?

Skylar (talk) 00:11, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * For 1, there's Inkipedia:Discord. For 3, there is plenty of that type of discussion on Squidboards, Reddit, and Gamefaqs. Heddy (talk) 03:01, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Number 2 is a great idea; I think most other wikis have something like this. 14:36, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks! I could help with a basic editing tutorial with everything I learned from making my profile. I think that would be a good place to start. Skylar (talk) 21:04, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

There's a problem
Sometimes, but not always, the read, edit, and view history buttons on the top slide left and right and hide behind the watch/unwatch button. I have to chase them to click on them! This has been happening since when I joined Inkipedia. Could we fix it somehow? (maybe the buttons are bored of just sitting there!) 15:33, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Can confirm, this happens on small resolution screens such as mobiles where the page can't fit all the tabs across properly. Since aegis left, we don't really have anyone that specialises in page styling, but I will take a look at it. 15:42, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Error for my user group
Im here autoconfirmed, but I have made 6 edits including this one and I created an account earlyer. What's happening im no time traveler. TabuuandMasterCore (talk) 00:04, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * You become Autocomfirmed when you make five edits andhave been on the wiki four four days I think. 01:02, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Well here's my edit count and registration date: Number of edits: 8

Registration time 23:11, 23 June 2016 TabuuandMasterCore (talk) 01:08, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

YouTube on Names
I think that for a competitive Splatoon player e.g C<<ParaDUDE, I think we should put a link in their name to their YouTube channel like: [| C<<ParaDUDE]. But I need some help on the bracket thingy [] gtKaged 20:42pm, 30 June 2016 (GMT)