Inkipedia:Ink Pump

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Inkipedia.org
Just wanted to give a heads up that I've snatched inkipedia.org and redirected it to this domain (since that's the wiki's official title). Might take a day or two for the redirect to go into effect. ~Super Hamster  Talk 06:05, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Thank you for this! Espyo (talk) 10:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Deletion tag
Created Template:Deletion request a few days ago. Editors can mark a page for deletion and give a reason. Pages that have been marked for deletion appear at Category:Pages pending deletion, if any admins want to check that page periodically. ~Super Hamster  Talk 15:28, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Which English translation is primary?
Several pieces of gear have different English names depending on the localization (NA vs EU/AUS). Which translation are we prioritizing? For example, if we were to make a page for a piece of gear, would we use the NA name or the EU/AUS name as the title? Do we have site statistics that will let us know which countries our primary English-speaking audience is from? --sunmarsh  ( talk )  20:08, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I second this. We need to determine a wiki-wide code of editing based on where our visitors are from. For example, I changed "colour" to "color" because of a rule on a previous wiki I worked on, but this should be decided as a community. Thoughts? -ShrimpPin (talk) 22:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I would say in those cases, use the NA name as the main name, and then have the EU/AUS name in parentheses in the title, description, and/or infobox. If necessary, you could have redirect pages of the EU/AUS names. -Tristan Afro (talk) 03:31, 2 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I would say to use American, as that's what the standard has been for pretty much all the Wiki's I've seen, I myself live in Europe though. For gear names, we can just use the UK names as redirects and mention them in the description of the item, not that big of a deal. I would like if we kept release dates of things like we have now (Japanese first instead of American) just for easier reading. PPLToast (talk) 19:02, 2 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think it might be easier to list all of the names in each language in the template or in a separate section from the article like so. --SgvSth (talk) 20:22, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I say use American first, as it's very likely the most popular reader base, but don't just use European/Australian names in parenthesis. If people see a name, and then another in parenthesis, they could think that means anything, like an alias, a Japanese name, an early E3 name, etc. For normal text, do it like this: "The bla bla (yadda yadda in Europe and Australia) is...". For page names, call them by their American name, and on the opening paragraph, use the example I wrote in the last sentence. Espyo (talk) 13:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I say a poll Xertico (talk) 13:31, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Welcome message
I created Template:Welcome message as a potential option for welcoming new users; it's valuable that we welcome anyone that joins and provide them with initial guidance. If anyone wants to look over it, feel free to edit it or provide suggestions. Thanks, ~Super Hamster  Talk 03:06, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks good. This phrasing seems awkward to me to me though: "If you need help... the MediaWiki Help Contents are a good place to start." I would just say "MediaWiki:Help is a good place to start." Also I would suggest renaming the template to Template:Welcome for convenience sake. --sunmarsh  ( talk )  21:12, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair points, I agree: done and done. ~Super Hamster  Talk 21:16, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there any good reason as to why we should add the user's name on the first parameter, instead of letting the template use ? Espyo (talk) 13:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope, good catch. Should be, which I just tried and it worked. Thanks! ~Super Hamster  Talk 14:04, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops. Yeah, that. All right, cheers. Espyo (talk) 14:44, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

False Splatoon Prima Guide Quote
A lot of the weapons have quotes falsely quoted to the Splatoon Prima Guide in the description (NOT the one in the "Notes"). These quotes are actually in-game descriptions from the weapons info. I changed a few of them to look like this: http://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Splattershot (removed the "-Splatoon Prima Guide" and gave the quote it's own section). This is how I used to do them on the Splatoon Wikia. Thoughts? -Tristan Afro (talk) 03:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I like the use of the quote template but I think that it's a bit much to give the quote its own section. I previewed a few edits, moving it around the page, I think it looks nice placed at the very top of the article, just after "The Splattershot is a Main Weapon in Splatoon." and before the Description section. Also I think the quote should be attributed to Sheldon. --sunmarsh  ( talk )  21:23, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * That sounds pretty good. But I wouldn't attribute it to Sheldon, because it doesn't officially state it's by Sheldon's quote in the game, as well as that some of the quotes refer to him in the 3rd person; "A Splat Charger modified by Sheldon..." so I doubt that they are. -Tristan Afro (talk) 22:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe just attribute it as "In-Game Quote" or "In-Game Info Quote" -Tristan Afro (talk) 22:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I think I misunderstood the origin of the quotes! ^^; In that case, I think it's just better to leave it unattributed, but I'll leave the final decision up to you. --sunmarsh  ( talk )  00:30, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Weapon Stat Numbers
Where did you guys get the numbers for weapon stats? I'd like to know for newer weapons (such as the N-Zap '85). -Tristan Afro (talk) 18:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You can test out weapons by uh... pressing Y, I believe? When you're on the equipment screen. You get some useful tools to measure stats with, there. Espyo (talk) 13:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

License options
Hi there - could an admin add Template:Fairuse to the licensing options available when uploading a file? This should be able to be done at MediaWiki:Licenses, by adding a bullet and the text. Thanks! ~Super Hamster  Talk 20:11, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. Espyo (talk) 13:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Linking
When we link to things like Main Weapon, Shooter, Charger, etc. should we link to the page or the category? For example, Main Weapon or Main Weapon? -Tristan Afro (talk) 21:01, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Article sounds like the right choice to me. Makes more sense to me to link an article to an article; it's rare (if ever) to link to a category in an article body on most wikis. ~Super Hamster  Talk 21:04, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Table Template?
Is there a way to make something like this a template: -Tristan Afro (talk) 22:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you want just the header to be a template (like Template:ItemList), or the entire table? I'd also set the class of tables to "wikitable" (instead of article-table), to get that familiar wiki table layout. ~Super Hamster  Talk 22:57, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah just the header. Thanks. And I changed it to wikitable. -Tristan Afro (talk) 23:05, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep, I'd just copy the contents of Template:ItemList to Template:SetList and change the columns accordingly. I just did the same with Template:AbilityList. ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 23:08, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Info box
The coding on Captain Cuttlefish's info box is incorrect, thus the info doesn't show up. Can anyone tell me how to fix this (or fix it themselves)? --Nougatbat (talk) 22:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Did not mean to save it like it is, but basically some of the parameters are from the wikia template. I added the parameters based on the template, so the only issue is the 'location' parameter at the moment.  --SgvSth (talk) 23:31, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Multilingual Glossary
Hi, I’ve made a template for a multilingual glossary since I’d like to know how items, characters or everything are called in each region. Here is an example:

(Also example here)

So all you need is call the template and add simple definition lines inside, like: |en-US=Cap’n Cuttlefish |ja=アタリメ司令 &#39;&#39;Atarime shirei&#39;&#39; |n-ja=アタリメ ‘dried squid/cuttlefish’ + 司令 ‘commander’ and you’ll get tables as above (undefined rows not to be shown). I don’t know how many localized versions there are; is it sufficient or are there any missing language-region? (talk) 08:56, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Nice! I'm not quite sure on the languages either, but I can say that there is no (European) Portuguese translation. Espyo (talk) 12:58, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks good! I'd go ahead and move it to the Template space (Template:Translations or something like that) if you think it's ready. ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 13:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, go ahead - TESTFIRE! New rows should be added when we find other localizations (maybe Canadian French, Latin American Spanish? and if they have individual, different translation from Europe’s). Also, I added how to use to the template page itself. It needs a bit of rewriting when moved, so I left instructions as comments in the source code; please check it out. Zeeksphere (talk) 03:05, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I tried using this in Splattershot Jr. - tell me if the format is fine, and I can add the Spanish name for weapons and stuff. AbelToy (talk) 12:58, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not sure if it should have its own section right now, but I can say that it will definitely work for now. --SgvSth (talk) 16:59, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Added notes column. See the template page to check the example. Zeeksphere (talk) 06:40, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Clean-up Gear Pages
So currently there are Pages for Cooler Heads, Jelly Fresh, Shrimp Kicks, Headgear, Clothing, and Shoes. Between the shops and gear categories, there's a lot of redundancy in information since the bulk of the information is the actual gear. Personally, I think it should all be merged into one page for Gear or Shops (since there's so little other information on each page) and have each shop/gear category listed as a subheading. Each page would then redirect to that category- i.e.: Headgear would have the code (or something similar to): #redirect Shops

Since every piece of Gear will (eventually) have its own page, the list of the appropriate gear under each shop, including gear awarded from amiibos and Hero Mode. The lists themselves don't need three individual pages. That's just clutter. I do think Ammo Knights and Weapons should be separate from these three though.

There also seems to be the page List of gear in Splatoon which is an unnecessary page that looks like someone started and forgot about.Vernanonix (talk) 15:58, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Booyah Base can serve as an article for information about the stores themselves, one section per store, if there's anything of importance to say about them to begin with. Then weapon, shoe, etc. can serve as list articles. That general list article you linked to should probably be deleted. Espyo (talk) 16:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Alright, I've made the initial set-up. Booyah Base now has all the shops listed there and the individual shop pages now redirect to their sections on the page. The formatting is a little wonky but the big part is done.Vernanonix (talk) 17:22, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree with the consolidation of the individual shop pages into the Booyah Base page, however I hardly see how the List of gear in Splatoon is 'useless' or 'looks like it has been forgotten'. The list is continually updated via transclusion (click the expand button to show gear) from the individual gear lists and a list of gear all in one place would be very helpful for users trying to develop specific ability strategies across gear types. --sunmarsh  ( talk )  06:07, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Likely because the page it is on has not been updated in a bit since everything is mostly being pulled in from the other three areas. The only difference between the two ideas is how weapons fit into the picture from what I can see.  --SgvSth (talk) 06:34, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Not sure what you mean by "the difference between the two ideas", SgvSth. Which two ideas? --sunmarsh  ( talk )  08:05, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The idea to have all of the gear on a single page and the idea to have individual pages for each shop is what I believe I was referring to. --SgvSth (talk) 01:13, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * When I looked at the List of gear page, the tables weren't expanding and it looked like it was a mostly empty page. My apologies. However, I do think it's unnecessary to have individual Headgear, Clothing, and Shoes lists plus a page with all three lists. Should we do similar here and have all three link to the List of gear page? Also, I see a lot of places linking to the Weapons Category page. However, the Main Weapons page exists and has a table and all already there. That's probably the better one to be linking to.Vernanonix (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree that it's a bit silly to have three separate lists and one large one and would be in favor of moving the content from the separate lists into the main one. Before we do that though I think we need to resolve the concerns on Talk:Clothing. Also I agree that the list of gear article should link to the Main Weapons page and not the category- I'll make that change now. --sunmarsh  ( talk )  19:24, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

So, should we go ahead and make the Headgear, Clothing, and Shoes pages redirect to the List of gear in Splatoon page?Vernanonix (talk) 05:25, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * The list of gear page pulls info from the individual list pages. So we need to move the lists from each page onto the list of gear page before redirecting. I'll work on that now. --sunmarsh  ( talk )  21:47, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Ugh. I just found there's also a Gear page as well. Vernanonix (talk) 23:17, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I created the gear page because it was turning into an article in its category page. I think one day we'll get enough content for shops to move out, but I see that each gear can be quite neatly put into a table. - Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 23:26, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * While we're at it, ClothingPro needs treatment given all the gear we now have. Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 23:40, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

What pages currently need to be created?
Just interested. Xertico (talk) 19:35, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Special:WantedPages. Hero Mode needs all its missions and there's a butt-tonne of clothing to add. Kjhf (talk) 19:44, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Currently individual pieces of gear are wanted pages - but the table on Clothing seems to cover everything I'd ever want to know. Maybe make individual gear item names redirect to the gear type pages? --Tyroney (talk)


 * When you say "gear type pages," are you saying like a the Jungle Hat should redirect to the Headgear page and so on? Because the actual gear pages have specific weapon specs as well, like power and such.Vernanonix (talk) 20:23, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Dug through things just now, and this has been dealt with. --Tyroney (talk)


 * Just to build on this we need more of the following: a few more pieces of Judd's advice, some stubs and other things that need to be cleaned up, Missions and Bosses that need adding and fixing, Loads of files to categorize and some templates as well, and a number of categories and pages that need to be created. --SgvSth (talk) 23:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 * As put at the bottom, check out Inkipedia:Maintenance and do anything you feel like from there.
 * At the moment, the ability page has just been split into all its individual parts so a lot of people are working on that now!
 * 22:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Tip: You can take Wii U screenshots
Didn't know this until recently, but you can take screenshots at any time where the HOME menu is accessible. You can upload them using the Internet Browser application. I tried uploading to Imgur, but it got stuck at "Pending..." so I used this "Postimage.org" image hosting site and it worked fine. The screenshots are 720p, so it's better than using Miiverse. I'm using this to add images to the Hero Mode mission pages. --NefariousSquid (talk) 02:18, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * That's awesome! Thank you for the tip! -ShrimpPin (talk) 14:24, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Just FYI I tried using postimage.org and received an error. I used Google Drive instead. --sunmarsh  ( talk )  21:36, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I personally have access to a 1080p60 capture device, so I can make videos like this one if we think we need some footage to demonstrate anything. (Spam filter blocked my YouTube link. It's YouTube video ) --GuyPerfect (talk) 22:13, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

On 'Contributions', what does the +[No.] mean?
Xertico (talk) 12:45, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The difference in number of characters (or is it bytes?) in the page. So like, if a page said "ABC" before, but somebody changed it to "ABCDE", a green "+2" would appear, meaning that that edit is 2 characters bigger. It's useful for stuff like "-1234", which probably means somebody deleted a section, which should be looked in to. Espyo (talk) 13:27, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

The help page is unclear
I have no idea how to do the snazzy info box D: Xertico (talk) 14:06, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Honestly, the best way to learn it is to look at the code on pages that already have it. Once you mess around on wikis for a while, you start to learn the basics of the coding. From there, it's just copy and pasting from what works and altering it to suit your needs. So I suggest going to look at pages that have the "snazzy info box" and read the code there.Vernanonix (talk) 16:09, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Current Stages and Countdown
I really think the current stages and a countdown until the stages rotate are needed on the main page. Is anyone interested in updating the current stages every four hours? Of course you won't have to do it every time, but it would be nice to have people from a variety of time zones that can contribute to this. -ShrimpPin (talk) 18:06, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm working on a JavaScript for the countdown timer. Can someone post a list of the intervals where the stages are changed in UTC? --Xenon (talk) 03:21, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * They change every 4 hours, at 2, 6, and 10 am and pm. Also, the stages come out at random, right? Nothing could accurately display the new stages without it being added by hand, yeah?Vernanonix (talk) 05:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * For others, note times above are UTC. We used a Countdown over on My LEGO Network:  (Search for countdowndate) - Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 11:33, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Button Template
I went on the current projects page and saw that we need a button template. Do we have the images for these buttons? If not, I can get them. --Nougatbat (talk) 19:15, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we do need the images. Thanks! -  Shrimp Pin  01:45, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Spoilers
Do we have any policies regarding spoilers? Such as Agent 3 is the player but Agent 1 and 2 are ... - Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 11:52, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Some ideas bouncing around:
 * We should have a small tag such as "this page contains spoilers! Read at your own risk!" on top of sections/pages.
 * For minor spoilers, a button to hide/show a section of text, or highlighting reveals the spoiler.
 * For big spoiler pages such as DJ Octavio, have a landing page first asking them if they want to continue.
 * Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 13:10, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I've made a spoiler landing page template. Template:SpoilerLanding Perhaps we could move pages like DJ Octavio to a different namespace (like Spoilers:DJ Octavio) and then make the original use my spoiler template. --Xenon (talk) 15:13, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Image Capture
Hello there, just wanted to introduce myself, since you guys are doing a good job of make pages but the images are... eh. I figured since I have capture cards and hardware to make screenshots and videos of Wii U stuff (Mainly for my twitch stream, if you want I can take uncompressed screenshots etc for your guys (Nice clean 720p screenshots because the game runs natively at 720p most of the time). Would be especially helpful in the Sunken Scrolls page.

For the record I have an Intensity Shuttle and Elgato GamecaptureHD. Pyrii (talk) 23:29, 7 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Just a quick demo Pyrii (talk) 01:28, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Of course! Go right ahead. If it's a suggestion for an improvement, don't hesitate. – EspyoT 08:14, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm wondering if there's a page with image requests that I could work on when I'm playing off-stream. Maybe something like User:Pyrii/Screencap_Requests Pyrii (talk) 13:02, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * There's a category for articles tagged with image: Category:Articles that need images. That's probably a good place to start. We also have a lot of work to do with the Hero Mode mission walkthroughs! Thanks for your help! :) - Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 13:24, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Google results
Because I am not familiar with this sort of problem, is there any way we can get Google to start showing this site as a result rather than the one on wikia? If I google "Splatoon Wiki" Inkipedia isn't even mentioned until the second page. Although it should be noted the wikia one does feature Inkipedia on the front page. Burritoburger (talk)
 * This was discussed a bit today in the wiki's Skype chat. I did adjust our page title today so that ", the Splatoon wiki" is appended to the end of each page's title. That may help. In the end, the most deciding factor is how many other quality sites link to Inkipedia. Social media and other wikis typically have "nofollow" links, which don't impact search engine rankings - this deters spam. If we're linked from other sites though (fan sites, NIWA, maybe boards, etc.), that may help. I think the best we can do is to churn out quality content, increase our readership, and popularize the site through social media. ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 02:46, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

My new discussion at the bottom of the page mentions this as well… hopefully this site will rise above the old, dead Wikia site soon. :) --Eli (talk) 11:33, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Wikia spends a lot of money on SEO to make sure it stays on top. The fact that its City of Heroes page still ranks higher than Paragon Wiki is a clear-cut example. --GuyPerfect (talk) 22:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Gear Name?
Hi guys! I'm new here. So the Black Moto Boots page caught my attention. Not only is it a stub, but as far as I know there is no such gear name in the game, only the Moto Boots (which is black) and the Blue Moto Boots. I don't know what to do with the page, so I need guidance. ~I shall splat thee!~ KamuiKagerou77 (~ discussion ~) 14:46, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Nice catch. You are correct- there is no such item. That page was created prior to the game's release and may be using a beta-name or a literal translation from Japanese. Since the item has no attributes listed there is no way to tell if it is referencing a shoe that made it into the game or not, therefore I have tagged the page for deletion. --sunmarsh  ( talk )  18:56, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Eh it took about a minute to move it and then edit it, now we also have a nice redirect in case there's any links to it anywhere still. - Pyrii (talk) 01:58, 9 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Good thinking- thanks for that! --sunmarsh  ( talk )  03:08, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Articles or Categories
For several areas, there are categories that act like an article. Specifically Category:Shooter over the Charger and Roller articles. Same with the brands, except all of the brands are categories with no article to point to the category. Is it intended for the articles to be made later or will those areas be categories? --SgvSth (talk) 03:01, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * In my opinion I don't think a category should ever replace the purpose of the article. Having information about a subject on the category page (like in the Shooter category example) is all right, but the respective article (Shooter) should have all that info, a list, and more. If a list ever gets too long, it could be split into its own page (e.g. List of Shooters). ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 03:06, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * A Category is just for grouping articles (Like shoes, tops, hats, weapons, multiplayer levels, singleplayer levels, etc...). Whether types of weapons should have their own category? I'm not sure there's enough of them to warrant it. Brands maybe with page redirects as again you can categorise certain clothing under a brand. Remember that items can be in multiple categories. This helps people trying to find a certain items. - Pyrii (talk) 03:14, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I would say that almost every page should be categorized in one way or another. (Even images need them.)  Even if a category is only used for one or two page, it can be used for mulitple images as well.  --SgvSth (talk) 03:30, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed, everything needs a category. I categorized all categories yesterday (cleared Special:UncategorizedCategories). But mainspace should be for article content, including lists, as said earlier. Categories should not have any content as such: only a summary describing what they are.
 * For example, take Wikipedia's Flower and its category counterpart, Category:Flowers, and with its list at List of garden plants. - Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 12:32, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The best tactic that combines this with redoing the templates is to have the categories defined by the template. - Pyrii (talk) 05:42, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Substitution templates for new articles
We've got a lot of gear articles to write, so I thought I'd make the job less painful. I made NewShoes which is a substitution template for boilerplate writing. Simply use and hey presto, you have a new shoes article! You can see the first in-action test on this diff. I'll be making more of these for other gear, watch this space - Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 13:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Added
 * and
 * Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 14:23, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Real nice and useful, thanks! ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 20:03, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Auto Refreshing Recent Changes
Code from wowpedia: User:Kjhf/common.js. This adds an AJAX box that soft refreshes Special:RecentChanges every 30 seconds. Simply copy into your own common.js space if you want. If admins want sitewide, add to MediaWiki:common.js. Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 14:23, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not too comfortable of the idea of adding so many additions to the wiki, so quickly. Though it's nice that you shared it for people to use on their own. – EspyoT 14:38, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Automatically resetting the stage timer
The stage countdown timer on the front page currently requires you to reload the page every time the timer runs out. Perhaps we could fix this by putting the timer in an iframe, and then calling document.location.reload when the timer runs out. --Xenon (talk) 21:20, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
 * There's no need for that, a function can be written so the timer resets when it runs out. I do it if you want. AbelToy (talk) 10:11, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * If either of you want to give it a go and post results here, that would help a lot :) - Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 10:43, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Did it. You can see it here in action: https://jsfiddle.net/tsenazgw/7/ - in order to use it, copy the Javascript code (the text below) into Common.js, and the HTML code (the text above) wherever you want to use the countdown. This countdown is specific for the stages, and will countdown to the next stage change automatically without needing to refresh it. AbelToy (talk) 12:43, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Templates Way Too Big!
I think the templates' box size is way too big. How 'bout resizing it?

--marikdff 02:38, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree - did you have in specific ones in mind? Either way, they should definitely be shorter in height. ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 03:18, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

For example, the Deletion Template: http://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Template:Delete There is some space at the top and bottom. How about like this? http://www.mariowiki.com/Template:Tobedeleted Oh and you could probably put a squid ghost that appears after they get inked at the right. --marikdff 03:29, 10 June 2015 (UTC)marikdff

Clean up Ink pump
The this is/was an excellent idea, but it is getting a bit large. Perhaps every couple of weeks an admin should clean up old, irrelevant discussions. Seeing them is nice, but gets a bit tedious when looking for new stuff. Einstien74 (talk) 03:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Was planning on doing this soon-ish. Do we want to leave discussions up for, say, seven days before archiving? ~<font color="#07517C">Super <font color="#6FA23B">Hamster  Talk 03:39, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. you're the admins Einstien74 (talk) 05:29, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good here. I suggest you start with a hub page at Inkipedia:Ink Pump/Archive and archive under Inkipedia:Ink Pump/Archive/1 or something similar, maybe with a date stamp. Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 10:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I say we archive stuff based on size, not so much time. For time, we'd have to keep track of when everything was posted. For size it's a lot easier. Stuff like "do we have 30 sections? Let's archive the oldest 25." – EspyoT 12:35, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe a mixed idea. At the worst, all sections with no replies in ten days can be archived until there are only five sections left.   A section with one reply could be in fifteen, two in twenty-five, etc.  Or at least something like that.  --SgvSth (talk) 01:12, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Speed Runs
The speed running community for Splatoon is already speeding ahead with interesting strats. I'm wanting to do a page on runs/strats/times but don't know where to put it - Pyrii (talk) 05:23, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I assume Speed Runs of missions and tips for multiplayer stages will go in their respective pages. If there's something specific to speed runs such as TAS then perhaps make a separate article for that. - Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 10:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sharding information which might seem useful seems counter-productive. Especially since strats used for speedruns won't neccessarily be used for normal playthroughs. There's also the need for a specific article to mention types of speedruns and current times or where to find them. (Currently speedrun.com) - Pyrii (talk) 18:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Splatoon OST
Reddit user yocowthegreat ripped the entire Splatoon OST from the Squid Beatz minigame (unlocked with Amiibo challenges). Here's the YouTube playlist. "Music" page? Is there a way to embed YouTube videos? This website generates embedded player codes. If there is, maybe we could use the "Button + Volume" player type for the music page? --NefariousSquid (talk) 06:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The uploader has disallowed embedding - Pyrii (talk) 16:12, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Maybe we could link to the videos? ~I shall splat thee!~ KamuiKagerou77 (~ discussion ~) 23:58, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Maintenance Page
I created a maintenance page as a hub of links useful for ongoing maintenance or not knowing what to do. -Kjhf (Talk | Contribs) 10:45, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Some images
A reddit user made an album with a lot of images. We can use those on the wiki, if they aren't already here. – EspyoT 13:11, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we have most/all of those already. We're displaying some of them on the Main Page ;) File:CallieArt.png - 13:53, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

The old Wikia site
I added this on ShrimpPin's talk page too, but just in case he doesn't see it, I'll post it here too: The edits to the main page on the old Wikia site, telling viewers to come here instead, seem to have been reverted. We should fix that! (Or even better, delete the entire site if possible?) The old site always shows up in google rather than Inkipedia. :( Thanks! --Eli (talk) 11:33, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Audio player
I'm uploading compressed music from Splatoon. Admins, are you able to add a .ogg audio player extension to Inkipedia? --NefariousSquid (talk) 16:05, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Admins can't add extensions but Prod can. Will prod him for you. I created a music page in response to this idea previously.
 * 16:30, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * This extension seems to have a lot of annoying dependencies. It'll take some time to get it working. -- Prod (talk) 18:24, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Links
Is it possible to make a word link to a spot on the wiki without the word saying what page I want it to go to, like on the old Wiki site? (Ex. if something says "Blaster" and I want it to got to the blaster category page and not the Blaster weapon page and I don't want it to say Category:Blaster like on the weapons list page) --Jer455 (talk) 08:52, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Of course. Blaster will result in Blaster. ZOMG NEW WEAPON will create ZOMG NEW WEAPON – EspyoT 09:08, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It's the same markup as the old wiki site. In this case, Blaster results in Blaster. 11:33, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Basics
Hold on, is there any page with basic game info/mechanics? (What button does what? When does my ink refill and when won't it? What does the sensitivity slider actually adjust?) --Tyroney (talk) 17:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I did just find Options, but that's only part.--Tyroney (talk)

Naming and Template Conventions
While putting together Template:Ability, I had to jump through a very ugly hoop because there's no consistent naming convention on the Ability icons. A similar situation exists with all of the Gear imagery. I used some conditional evaluations like this:

[[File:

...
 * ]]

But let's say for a moment that all the Ability icon names followed the format of  so that, in this example, we'd be working with Ability_Damage_Up.png and Ability_Opening_Gambit.png. That being the case, since MediaWiki treats spaces and underscores the same in filenames, the 24-lines-of-conditional-code block can be condensed down to a single line:



That's a heck of a lot nicer, right? This is one reason naming conventions are important. This would also vastly simplify the markup of List of gear in Splatoon, since image filenames could be derived from the Gear name. (Also, that "Gear" oughtta be capitalized in the article title, but that's a different battle altogether.)

I noticed something similar happened with the brand templates. I suggested something along the lines of, which would allow for things like   and. What wound up getting implemented instead are nigh-identical templates for every brand, resulting in markup like  and. This is a problem for two reasons: 1) it unnecessarily bloats our template namespace (though that's largely a matter of taste), and 2) if any changes are desired, they have to be made to every brand template instead of just the one.

It's not my intention to barge into the wiki and start calling the shots, but I do want this wiki to be the best it can be, and right now I'm seeing some things going in a direction that I don't think is best.

--GuyPerfect (talk) 12:26, 17 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm inclined to agree on your points: we really should have consistent names for templates and images. Yes and yes.
 * However, the template usage, I don't agree so much because of four reasons:
 * 1. Editors are more likely to type what they mean.
 * Editors would not only have to know that the brands template exists but they also would have to look it up for its usage, for example is it or  or maybe even  ?
 * It's much more intuitive to have Skalop.
 * 2. The template code, though wasteful, is much more manageable and easy to edit by anyone.
 * For a violation of this, take a look at the switching template Navbar.
 * 3. Redirects only work to whole templates, not ones that switch on parameters.
 * This means could redirect to  but not the other way around.
 * 4. We discussed button templates before and decided ZR and the like is better than say
 * You raise a very good point on consistency of file names. It was my intention to copy-paste code for each template to be as identical as possible. When we can do that, we can make a template for all the templates and then only change that one when needed. Wasteful? You decide.
 * We don't have a style guide for this yet, it would be great if the commnity decides on this one.
 * 14:54, 17 June 2015 (UTC)


 * There, I just modified User:GuyPerfect/Sandbox to use some templates instead of hand-coding everything. Check the source markup--naming conventions made it easy! While I was working on that, I made an edit to Template:Ability to add the icononly parameter. While I ultimately opted to include the text in the Ability column, the fact remains that I was able to add the option for all 24 Abilities without going through and modifying 24 templates... So I'm really gonna have to stand by my earlier recommendation of using things like  and   over things like   and , respectively.
 * It also occurred to me while setting up my sample table that ambiguity could severely cripple the naming convention of templates if, in my specific example, something like  continues to be used. That template currently renders the amiibo brand, but there's no reason it couldn't also be meant to refer to something like the type of merchandise or the nature of unlockable content. Splitting it up as ,   or   would bypass that problem altogether. One alternative is to modify the offending templates on a case-by-case basis, such as  , but doing that suddenly breaks all content referencing the first template that happened to come along. Another might be to add new templates such as  , but then that potentially sacrifices consistency with other templates depending on the order they were implemented. If we can establish a convention at this point that sort of future-proofs this kind of problem (and we can), I really think that's an avenue we should go down.
 * On the topic of requiring editors to be familiar with the templates, that's how it is on every other wiki I've visited. What I can say from experience is that when I'm new on a wiki and want to be consistent with existing content, I just look at the existing content to see what it does. It took me a few edits on Bulbapedia before I realized that I was supposed to say  instead of  . We can easily educate new users with a simple style guide and list of common wiki-specific templates.
 * --GuyPerfect (talk) 17:37, 17 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree that naming conventions would definitely help to streamline future template possibilities and I would be in favor of establishing some guidelines over at Inkipedia:Policy (specifically at the to-be-written Inkipedia:Policy/Image_Guidelines). Of course, that's something to talk to the Admins about. I'm also in agreement that we should try to limit our template count (e.g.  vs  ), although I think that we need to be sure to include the proper use and documentation notes before implementation, otherwise it makes it even harder for new users to use (or if needed, modify) the more complex templates. --sunmarsh  ( talk )  00:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Story details?
I think there should be a place where history, lore, and all spoiler-y Hero Mode details should go. Should we make a page called "Story" or "History?" Also, I feel like there should be a conjectural name for the Inklings' planet. When talking about the Great Turf War and rising sea levels, the entire planet should be discussed, and not just one city, Inkopolis. Should we make a page called "Earth," because the planet technically is Earth? Feedback is appreciated! -  Shrimp Pin  13:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC)