Talk:Octo Valley (mode)

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Latest comment: 9 July 2018 by InfiniteMusume in topic Move "Octo Valley (mode)" to "Hero Mode (Splatoon)"

Move "Octo Valley (mode)" to "Hero Mode (Splatoon)"

I probably wanted to say this. Despite calling it "Octo Valley" from the map screen on the GamePad, most promotional materials call it "Hero Mode". This can also avoid disambiguation with "Octo Valley" as the place. Same thing goes with "Octo Canyon (mode)", which should be moved to "Hero Mode (Splatoon 2)". Of course, we can't call Octo Expansion as "Deepsea Metro (mode)" or Salmon Run as "Grizzco (mode)", according to the map screen. -InfiniteMusume (talk) 20:33, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've usually seen the NA English version not using (and maybe even avoiding?) the Hero Mode term for both Splatoon 1 and 2, and rather referring to it as the single-player mode or Octo Valley/Canyon. But the EU English version and many other languages definitely use Hero Mode in promos for the mode in both Spla1 and 2. I can't really say what to do, as this wiki seems to use the NA terms more. (Are there any NA promos using the Hero Mode term, as I haven't been able to find that?) --Hinamin (talk) 23:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Avoiding ambiguity between the location and the mode would be nice. But I don't remember it ever being called Hero Mode in game, or on the official Tumblr. The box art for Splatoon calls it story mode and the box art for Splatoon 2 calls it solo play / Octo Canyon. Octo Expansion and Salmon Run are both consistently called those names in promotional material, at the point of purchase (box art, store pages), and in-game. So it seems that everything is currently titled with the names that are most commonly used. Heddy (talk) 02:36, 2 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But, if we define an official name as "what the developers call something", then Hero Mode is the official name. It shows up in developer interviews. The inconsistent naming - which includes "solo play", "story mode", "[location]", and "single-player" - comes from marketers who don't really understand the game as well as the developers do. Heddy (talk) 02:40, 2 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Developer interviews are probably Japanese, which doesn't necessarily line up with English. Also I don't think that a title a developer says in an interview should be taken as the most suitable unless there is nothing else, as there are no obligations to use official terms in interviews like there would be in promotional material. Inkling luke.png Inkling talk.png 12:11, 2 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Another thing. The Japanese website for both games calls the single player campaign ヒーローモード (literally translates to "Hero Mode"). So, both EU (also AU) and JP promotional materials use the single-player mode as "Hero Mode". I recently checked the back of the AU box art for both games, that they use the term "Hero Mode". -InfiniteMusume (talk) 14:26, 2 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If the Australian box contains the text "Hero Mode", then that's the first official English use of it I've seen. Nintendo's localization teams do not communicate with each other, so there are often cases where things get translated differently depending on region (for example, "Ink Battle" is an official term in North America and nowhere else). Other English publications such as the official Tumblr page unambiguously refer to the game mode (as opposed to the setting) as Octo Valley/Canyon[1][2] and never as Hero Mode[3]. Whenever discrepancies exist, such as with Designer Headphones/Colourful Headphones, the wiki policy is to use the North American variant as page names. --GuyPerfect (talk) 00:01, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just adding on to this that the EU English box art uses Hero Mode for S2, while the NA version has Octo Canyon. The official Splatoon websites also use Hero Mode in EU and Octo Canyon in NA. --Hinamin (talk) 00:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But it's never referred to as Hero Mode in the English game, especially now that the NA/NoA and EU/NoE games use the same translation. +1 to GuyPerfect's comment and points. –Eli (talk) 02:13, 4 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright I'm just going to put "(also known as Hero Mode in PAL regions)" in both the overviews for Octo Valley (mode) and Octo Canyon (mode). Hero Mode isn't mentioned in-game in EU translations, but in promotional material (like in the box art and websites). EU/PAL readers might search "Hero Mode". It is best to create redirect pages (Hero Mode (Splatoon) redirects to Octo Valley (mode), and Hero Mode (Splatoon 2) redirects to Octo Canyon (mode)). --InfiniteMusume (talk) 16:44, 9 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]