Talk:Music

Talk:Music

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New S3 Fest Music

When will the audio files for City of Color (2023) & Tomorrow's Nostalgia Today be uploaded to the wiki? P.J. GT(talk) 02:29, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

I think City of Color is here. -Random 16:59, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm talking about the new Remix from S3. Its STILL not on the wiki yet. P.J. GT(talk) 18:15, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

City of Color (2023) is on the page for City of Color. It doesn't need it's own page when it's a remix. Tomorrow's Nostalgia Today does have a page aswell. So I don't know which song you're talking about which needs a page. -Random 20:18, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

I am not talking about the songs needing separate pages. I am saying that the "audio files" for both songs are haven't been uploaded to the wiki and added to their respective articles yet. I am aware of City of Color (2023) being mentioned on the City of Color article, and I am only stating about the absence of the files. If you are able to upload them, it'd be great. Sincerely, P.J. GT(talk) 23:25, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh. I don't know how to upload music. I'll look up how to. -Random 12:55, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

.oga file?

It seems that most of the splatoon 1 and 2 music files are .oga files, would it be possible to change this to a more accessable file type? the .oga file seems to be a really niche extension and its not easy to play without certain software. Cheems (talk) 16:05, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

It's not niche per se. I know Google Chrome thoroughly supports it, and it is a goal of mine to start getting new MP3 uploads available. I've a little more info here. Trig Jegman - 19:15, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! I was just a little annoyed because they were hard to play when downloaded, thats all. Cheems (talk) Cheems (talk) 11:46, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Octo Valley Area 3

The file isn't there.

Sincerely

-Cuttlfish59 (talk) 03:32, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

File appears just fine to me. Are you not seeing the file at all, or having playback issues? Trig Jegman - 03:35, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Weird. It looks fine now. Maybe it just had a problem loading. Cuttlfish59 (talk) 21:04, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Toxic Anoxic's two parts

The Toxic Anoxic file begins with the distorted victory jingle and then immediately transitions to the actual song. Would we be better off splitting the distorted jingle into its own file? In-game (jukebox), Toxic Anoxic only refers to the battle music - not the unique jingle that plays beforehand. Ballistik57 (talk) 15:11, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

I'd like to add Splatune 3 splits the two into separate tracks as well. I think that'd be a good idea. FancyRat 15:16, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

would it be a good idea to upload the splatune 3 versions of the music to this page + additional ost pages instead?

because some pages do have altered versions of themselves in the splatune 3 album (like the percussion from bear with me phase 2 being in phase 3 as well, the bass being louder in the mid section of hide and sleek, and the alterna weapon select music being cleaner.) and i do have digital versions of the music so i was wondering if i could do that Lunarchaluna (anbell) (talk) 20:05, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Negative, please do not upload Splatune 3 rips. Honestly Inkipedia should host fewer copyrighted music files, not more. (Wiki admins may have plans to address this in the future.) Instead, please consider documenting the differences using text in the individual soundtrack pages, if not already documented. Harimaron (talk) 15:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

thumbs up emoji Lunarchaluna (anbell) (talk) 02:03, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Anniversary Splatfest

I can't load the file for big betrayal. The anniversary Win and Lose songs aren't there. Cheese (talk) 22:48, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

I'd like to add to this (it kind of fits in the same regard). After the fest ended a song played with lyrics similar to anarchy rainbow, just kind of slowed down, and it was just playing in Splatsville. I have no idea what song this is, because it is not at the jukebox or in this article, so if someone figures it out I'd like to know. MasonX247 (talk) 00:17, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

@MasonX247 it's named as ??? in the Jukebox, we'll hopefully get a name soon. -Random 00:33, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Is it time to add Side Order music?

Are we close enough to add its repsective category and additionally the teaser and/or the trailer music? Or is it too early? VibeCat (talk page) 00:43, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

I would say it is too early to add anything related to Side Order's music, especially since we do not have names or artists for any of the music used in the trailer yet. FancyRat 01:38, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Hm, ok. VibeCat (talk page) 02:01, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

I think we should wait until the full release of Side Order. Cheese (talk) 11:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Splatoween

where is the music from splatoon 3 splatoween i see deepers creepers but not the anarchary rainbow remix or any of the other remixs, i feel like if were goning to put deepers creepers in we need to put in ALL the special splatfest unigue music, especially since i belive they found songs for Frost Fest in the files too (dont quote me on that)MochiMochi (talk) 23:48, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

okay now to add on to that there is new music for splatoon 3 frosty fest and i cant find it either MochiMochi (talk) 02:24, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

its okay everyone reply whenever, i dont mind MochiMochi (talk) 22:01, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Most of the songs are already on the wiki. Songs with their own names (Yule Tide, Deepers Creepers) are listed on this page under the "Splatfest" header. Variations of Anarchy Rainbow are on that song's page. I don't think we have pages for the Crab 'n Go jingles (neither the holiday versions nor the standard one). Lyichir (talk) 01:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

okay, yeah i know about those but its just for no reason at all the crab and go songs are the best ones in the game for no reason and i want to listen to them :'( thanks though MochiMochi (talk) 18:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

speakers in splatoon 3

why cant i find the music for the speakers in splatsville? Charli3 20:21, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

what speakers? MochiMochi (talk) 01:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

the outside of the shop spearkers (i.e the music you hear outside of ammo knights) Charli3 23:23, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

are we going to add side order music?

It would be necissary in my opinion to have side order sound track on this website SquidKid7750 (talk) 21:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Side Order tracks will be added, but I think we should wait for the voting on the Audio Guidelines proposal to finish before uploading any more audio. Shdwdogg0 (talk) 23:56, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

On title of Marina Agitando theme

What's the actual title of Marina Agitando theme? Is it Unconcience or Unsconcience? Unconcience makes better sense in English, though. Mslabo102 (talk) 16:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

"Unsconscience", straight from the jukebox data. There had been some discussion about its etymology on Discord. We'll just see how it's written when we finally create the page. Harimaron (talk) 18:19, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Titles of SO Floor 10/20 boss themes

CΘld StΘrage, ΘctΘpticΘn and EchΘ Θnslaught uses Θ (Theta) in place of O, not 0 (zero). The in-game font was different from #0.1 style. Mslabo102 (talk) 16:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

add failure music

somone needs to add the music that plays affter you fail at completing the spire of order or clear it LuckySoda (talk) 16:59, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Inkopolis Square Hotlantis kiosk

Another track to add is the "New You" remix for Hotlantis heard via the Inkopolis Square kiosk after clearing Side Order. JDGO3P (talk) 04:24, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

we are so back song (off the hook)

new song from off the hook dropped on Nintendo YouTube somone add it Splatoon 3 - We're So Back - Nintendo Switch (youtube.com) LuckySoda (talk) 15:42, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

how do you add the track/ I am excited to get this song on here! SquidKid7750 (talk) 15:55, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

i dont know i joined inkapedia so i dont know how the aduio stuff works lol LuckySoda (talk) 13:24, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

new side order songs

hi, i would like to add new side order songs. how do i do it? Mikaeel (talk) 13:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

What songs are you looking to add? Unless I'm very much mistaken we should have all songs that aren't miscellaneous jingles or what have you...

Anyway, you can find our policy on audio here, and a detailed guide from our policy writer can be found here. Hope that helps! Driftin Soul [Talk!] 14:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Do we have the song that plays in the Order Sector ? Olivia (talk) 22:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

I just checked, and surprisingly, no! I searched it up, then checked the music page, and it doesn't seem like it's here! If you could get it (from a preferably trustworthy source) and upload it, that'd be great! Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk) 17:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

The problem with the order sector and foyer themes is that they're made up of a base track and several sound effects that play when the little shapes appear. I'm not entirely sure how to accurately replicate them, especially since the sound effects are played in 3D space, but I guess we could just upload the base tracks for now. Lmk what you think. Shdwdogg0 (Talk) 06:00, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

It's a jingle, but please can It be added. you can name it whatever you want but just add it Mikaeel (talk) 14:43, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't know which song it is you're looking to have uploaded, and even if I did I'm not personally knowledgeable of an acceptable source to get it from; I was under the impression that you had access to it and were looking to upload yourself, which is why I provided links to our audio-related pages. Driftin Soul [Talk!] 15:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Well as an explanation, they're looking for the theme played in the Order Sector, as in the area in front of the Spire, where you can buy hacks and go to Cyphers Siftings. It appears that we don't have that though.. my recommendation is that if anyone knows data mining of sorts that they can go into the game files and take it out? Is that even legal? I have no idea, but it's worth a look. Maybe we could find a way that doesn't involve Nintendo frowning on us, but this is all I've got. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk) 14:04, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

I do have it my self but how do I upload it Mikaeel (talk) 20:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Make sure it complies with the audio guidelines first, then use the upload page. If you ripped the audio yourself, use "source=self" in the file template. Shdwdogg0 (Talk) 10:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, then we can hear it. If it's correct, then I'll personally add it to the music page, no problem! Lastly, don't forget to Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk) 11:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Splatfest lobby songs

Is Deepers Creepers the only special Splatfest lobby song with a different version for each day? Or do the others also have different versions that haven't been uploaded? Hewer (talk · contributions) 12:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

NEW GRANDFEST NOW OR NEVER!!!

We need the new Grandfest Now or Never. It's on Youtube.

https://youtu.be/k2N9rVrIb6s Kensa Octo brush (talk) 01:05, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

We don't upload music downloaded from Youtube per policy, even if it's an official upload. For now, we have a page on the new group here. Yoshifan52 (talk) 01:10, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

That is not "Now Or Never", that is "Three Wishes" by Now Or Never Seven (all the idols). Alessio798 (talk) 04:47, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Ego Overboard disappeared?

I can't see Ego Overboard on the Splatoon 3 Splatfest section of the songs. Alessio798 (talk) 21:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

That song has never been made available in the lobby jukebox. Yoshifan52 (talk) 21:21, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Still Swimmin' is listed though, as well as several songs in other categories that are never heard via jukebox. Driftin Soul [Talk!] 21:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Whoops, I completely misunderstood! Looks like it was accidentally removed from the page, but has been re-added recently. Yoshifan52 (talk) 03:23, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

i think still swimmin did too, or am i wrong? GAMRCAT 23:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

why are conjectural side order song names in italics

no other conjectural songs are, why them? Olivia (talk) 19:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

bumping Olivia (talk) 11:53, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

The italics should be removed. I will remove it now.  GX_64 (talk)  12:23, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

ah, good. Olivia (talk) 12:47, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Did someone mess up the files or something?

So I was just in the mood to listen to the ost of splatoon but it seems like all the music files expect the splatoon 3 ones have been shorted to 30 seconds so whats going on? Is there a hacker? Or is there some type of Nintendo ninja hunting the music down? I really don’t know and I wanted to consult you guys before I try doing anything. Anomolyescapee1300 (talk) 04:54, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

We made a policy that required them to be 30 seconds long as a precautionary measure against a strike from Nintendo. Olivia (talk) 07:04, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

a more formal explanation will be released soon Trig - 07:55, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Great! Olivia (talk) 08:31, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Downloadable Splatoon songs on Nintendo Music app

The Nintendo Music app released recently and it could be an useful asset in recovering some songs that you couldn't add their files to the wiki. You can download music files directly from the app and add them to tye wiki. Just as I was looking, I found “Alterna Citizen Program M-00: Init (System Noise)”, which is missing from the Wiki. Please keep an eye out on this app and use it to add any missing song files on the Wiki! Tudipudi6607 (talk) 11:53, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

I did a cursory check and I'm pretty sure that (as with many music apps), files you download are encrypted and can't just be accessed normally and uploaded. As the Nintendo Music tracklist is exactly the same as the Splatune 3 album, it's not like any of these tracks were inaccessible before - anyone who had the album could've uploaded those files (and in fact, ripping files from the album is a lot more feasible than trying to decrypt the downloaded files), it's just that there was no interest in those files since they're not exactly important songs. The Nintendo Music app is useful for getting access to localized names for the songs in Splatune 3, as well as potentially getting the official thumbnail images for songs without album art, but I doubt it's any use for getting the files. UnderFlorence (talk) 13:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Page restructuring

There are three serious, intertwined issues with this page's current layout:

The table formatting is clunky. The extensive use of rowspan across 5+ rows makes it unintuitive to read the performing musician/band per song in several spots; the related album photos are formatted quite large at 200x200px. This is also partially due to the need to accommodate the bulky media loader template.

This page is very long at 94k bytes. There are 516 song samples embedded into the page via templates, which adds up to a heavy "cost" for the wiki software load times. Similar to how Ink was recently split up, I strongly think this page should be split into subpages per major individual release (S1, S2, S3). This would make the tables a bit easier to maintain and the content more streamlined. A split has the added benefit of future-proofing the page as we await an eventual new entry in the series; a new game would be expected to release with at least ~80 new songs which would bring the total listings on this page up to nearly 600.

This page is currently used as a hub for all song samples uploaded to the wiki. Likely as a remnant from before the wiki began extensively documenting each song via dedicated individual pages, this page has become something of a "hub" where 90% of the wiki's audio files are concentrated in one place. When editors aim to add music samples to the wiki, they tend to prioritize editing this page rather than a dedicated page for the individual song. Given that we have hundreds of song articles (category link), this page ought to act as a basic list of all music tracks, with the primary goal of directing readers towards the individual track pages to learn more.

Additionally maintaining all of the wiki's song samples on this track listing page makes it act as a sort of catalog for readers to potentially peruse clips of the music all at once. Per policy, the goal of audio clips should be to supplement the related text rather than replace it; in this page, the individual pages containing song descriptions are effectively replaced by the ease of access to so many samples at once... which is a bit dodgy. We should avoid that, especially now that official soundtrack releases are being made much more accessible. The related category pages should be our full listings of all audio files, not an important main article like this one.

To remedy all this, I strongly think the tables need to be dispersed into subpages as-is, then afterwards uniformly cleaned up in a more concise format. To reiterate, the goal of the page should be 1) to broadly explain general information about music in the series, and 2) to help users locate individual song and band pages.

As for table styling, here are three demonstrations of neater tables for your consideration:

Demo 1
Song Band Wii U Menu Start Up Wii U Menu Start Up N/A Player Editor Player Editor Splattack! (Jam Session) Splattack! (Jam Session) Squid Squad Visiting Inkopolis Visiting Inkopolis N/A Inkopolis Tutorial Inkopolis Tutorial

Demo 2
Song Band Wii U Menu Start Up N/A Player Editor Splattack! (Jam Session) Squid Squad Visiting Inkopolis N/A Inkopolis Tutorial Inkopolis News Squid Sisters

Demo 3
Song Band Wii U Menu Start Up N/A Player Editor Splattack! (Jam Session) Squid Squad Visiting Inkopolis N/A Inkopolis Tutorial Inkopolis News Squid Sisters

Removing the audio samples and scaling down the album icons per demo 2 is the way to go, in my opinion. Removing the album art entirely would condense the tables further, but the associated art provides a balanced amount of flair and could potentially help readers identify a song they may be looking for (in the case of the idols' artwork). Yoshifan52 (talk) 08:10, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

I think this is all very salient and am broadly in agreement that the music page is in need of serious restructuring. I would also like to suggest that the page is reevaluated to include significantly more overall written content, including the broad nature of how music is an important part of Splatoon's identity (one source that comes to mind to tap would be Hisashi Nogami's Game Developers Conference presentation on the series, which touches on this particular topic). Open to further suggestions also! Driftin Soul [Talk!] 08:30, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

For facilitating more written content for music, I believe it would be helpful to move all music list content to new pages like "List of music in Splatoon 2".

Moving that content, and linking to those list pages, would leave the main "Music" page to focus on things other than listing music. It could describe the history of music in Splatoon games, how music change with each new game. The music article should use developer interviews as a source for encyclopedic summaries describing what the developers were trying to do with the music, their inspiration, challenges, etc. It could have information about live performances; we have a live performances article, but the music article should summarize some of that content and of course link to the live performance article for readers wanting more details. Heddy (talk) 23:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Agreed on switching to list pages; that's essentially the crux of Yoshifan's proposal here. My reply was more focused on what we could add to fill the gaps left behind if we choose to undertake this action, as the current page is almost entirely devoid of content that isn't just the current track/sample listings. Driftin Soul [Talk!] 23:19, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

I completely and utterly agree with this. I personally like demo 2 the most, and I additionally think that something similar should be implemented for band pages. Touching on what Driftin Soul said, I have also wanted to include information regarding the lore from HaikaraWalker and the little development information I have (such as that Seita Inoue was the one to suggest virtual bands, source is the Ask the Developer interview regarding Splatoon 3) for a long time now, so I would support more written content with all my heart. Olivia (talk) 08:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

In response to both your message and the above ones, I think that would work wonderfully! I'll wait a few days to see if any other opinions are shared on the matter then get started on the split. Yoshifan52 (talk) 00:25, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I've started a draft for the upcoming rewrite. I'm thinking I'll place this onto the page soon, and let others fill in further information. Yoshifan52 (talk) 07:41, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I've performed the moves with some related cleanup underway. Now we need to fill out the page and fine tune the new list pages. Yoshifan52 (talk) 00:55, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

A problem with removing the audio files is that some more minor tracks without their own pages only have their files used on this page, such as certain trailer and cutscene music. But I suppose we could solve that by making pages for them. Hewer (talk · contributions) 09:01, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Exactly, the goal would be for "lesser" songs like that to also have pages (the idea is if its significant enough to warrant an upload, it belongs on a page). We could temporarily keep only those audio samples on the tables as the logistics of buidling those pages is looked into. Yoshifan52 (talk) 10:17, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Having the tables on subpages will be much better. I think demo 2 is the best. The images are helpful for finding songs.  GX_64 (talk)  01:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I like demo 1 best, it's the closest to what we have now, something which I am familiar and close to. NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk) 14:55, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

For music tracks that appear in multiple games, the current music page only lists them for the first game they appear in so that it doesn't repeat itself. Would that change if we split the lists for each game into individual pages? Hewer (talk · contributions) 01:01, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I would say yes, they should be relisted on each page. Likely with some kind of mark or ref note to distinguish them as returning/reused tracks. Driftin Soul [Talk!] 01:08, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes, it would make sense to have songs listed for each game they are heard in.

Having separate pages will make it easier to justify more info in general. The load time issue is caused by media loader templates, not by other stuff we add to the table, so load time is not a concern if editors decide to add columns with details such as if a song is returning, where it could be first heard, etc. Heddy (talk) 03:43, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Song length

Why are all the audio files only 30 seconds now? DJ reef (talk) 12:05, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

It's a new policy. See Inkipedia:Policy/Audio and Inkipedia:Proposals/Passed/Audio Use Policy (2). UnderFlorence (talk) 12:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)