# Talk:Rank

What are some of these headers supposed to mean?

**"Points per win" "Penalty per loss" "Penalty per loss below 20"**

The thing is there are ranges of wins and losses and I don't think rank really plays that much of a difference, but I have been in the A's for a lot longer than C's or B's. So that's why this is a discussion entry and not an official page entry.

My observation is this: If the average rank of team A is higher than average rank of team B and passes an unknown threshold, the match will award ±12 and ±8 instead of the usual ±10 for each side depending on a win or loss. If you are the higher ranked team, you get a -12 or a +8 depending on a loss/win. Vice versa is true. If the difference in average rank on a team is even greater, beyond another unknown threshold, you get a ±14 and ±6 reward.

The most data I have is on a 7 B+ and a single A+ in a room. The A+ player was rewarded in the -12, +8 tier. I cannot confirm that the same was applicable to B+'s on the same team, but expect it would be. I can also say that the average team rank matters as I was able to be an A+ and earn a +12 due to having teammates of lower rank on my team. And this was late night gaming, but I want to say I got a -8 for a 3 A- and A+ loss against 4 A+s. If it just took the individual's rank against the opposing team's average rank, an A+ should never get -8 or +12 rewards.

Zyst (talk) 19:50, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

**Points per win**: the amount of points you get towards your rank when you win**Penalty per loss**: the amount of points you lose from your rank when you lose**Penalty per loss below 20**: the amount of points you lose from your rank when you are below level 20. Luke (talk) 21:19, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

- It's like Zyst says, the amount you gain and lose depends solely on the rank of your opponents, there's no "lose 8 points if below 20" rule, it was added there possibly due to a mistake with understanding the system. The page should be fixed asap. From what it seems so far, if the difference between your opponent is more than 2 ranks, it'll affect the score by two, seems to be the same for difference of 4 ranks.

- I would be in favor of removing the
**Penalty per loss below 20**column and also including a description like PPLToast's description, especially so if it can be confirmed. My data has [B-,C+,C+,C] vs [B-,B-,B-,C+] is enough for a ±8\±12. If I gave a numerical value to each of these ranks, it'd look similar to this: [4+3+3+2] vs [4+4+4+3] which is [12] vs [15]. That fits in with PPLToast's prediction of a difference >2 ranks will change the score.

- I would be in favor of removing the

- More data is with [B,B-,B-,C+] vs [B,C+,C+,C]. Again with a numerical value, that would be [5+4+4+3] vs [5+3+3+2] = 16 vs 13. This was a ±8\±12 game as well.

- Well, the fact that points are in fact skewed based on your current Rank Points is finally confirmed by an official source via the 2.2.0 Update notes, just on a different scale.

Rank Rank Point Range Win Lose S 0-39 +5 -5 40-79 +4 -5 80-99 +4 -6 S+ 0-39 +4 -4 40-79 +3 -5 80-99 +2 -5