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:[[List of Octarians]] is really well organized, and I like the fact that it shows all the mode-specific variants for each type and shows what appears in each game. With that being said, all of this information is conveyed (in a less-clear format, I will concede) in [[Octarian]], with it even having links to the mode-specific variants in general. Also, could you clarify what you mean by it showing what "never actually appears in-game"?
:[[List of Octarians]] is really well organized, and I like the fact that it shows all the mode-specific variants for each type and shows what appears in each game. With that being said, all of this information is conveyed (in a less-clear format, I will concede) in [[Octarian]], with it even having links to the mode-specific variants in general. Also, could you clarify what you mean by it showing what "never actually appears in-game"?
:[[List of Salmonids]] is essentially a carbon-copy of [[Salmonid#Types of Salmonid]], but with more images. I don't think we need to have it. Also, again, could you clarify what parts should be transferred to [[Salmon Run Next Wave data]]? I don't see anything that isn't already on that page.
:[[List of Salmonids]] is essentially a carbon-copy of [[Salmonid#Types of Salmonid]], but with more images. I don't think we need to have it. Also, again, could you clarify what parts should be transferred to [[Salmon Run Next Wave data]]? I don't see anything that isn't already on that page.
:[[Talk:List of Octarians]] has my response to what [[User:6-Frisk]] said, but I'll repeat it here for convenience. It's a really good, well-organized list, but considering how broad it is and how few situations there are that would need it, it ends up being (to me) cruft. I think it would be a wonderful resource as a userpage, but it doesn't need to reside in mainspace.
:[[Talk:List of Octarians]] has my response to what [[User:6-Frisk]] said, but I'll repeat it here for convenience. [[List of Enemies]] is a really good, well-organized list, but considering how broad it is and how few situations there are that would need it, it ends up being (to me) cruft. I think it would be a wonderful resource as a userpage, but it doesn't need to reside in mainspace.
:Happy to discuss this, thanks again for reaching out. :) [[User:Bruhsfx2dotwav|Bruhsfx2dotwav]] ([[User talk:Bruhsfx2dotwav|talk]]) 00:58, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
:Happy to discuss this, thanks again for reaching out. :) [[User:Bruhsfx2dotwav|Bruhsfx2dotwav]] ([[User talk:Bruhsfx2dotwav|talk]]) 00:58, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
::List of Octarians and List of Salmonids are both redundant, but List of Enemies as a whole is useful itself. It could probably find a spot somewhere on the Inkipedia, if not, it could always be a sandbox; though sandboxes are usually for upcoming content not ready to be released into mainspace.
::I think the deletion notice should be replaced with a move notice. {{User:Random/Sig}} 15:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
:::For the list of Octarians What I mean by "never actually appears in game" is the Shielded Sanitized Twintacle Octodiver, You would expect that to exist since the model for it does however through all the stations in the Deepsea metro it does not appear once.
:::I agree with salmonids It was originally an ambition project* I didn't think 100% through but then as follow up I created the Octarians and enemies, Now I doubt the Salmonids was ever needed but the others do have some use
:::*The ambition was in that I was trying to make a more detailed version of this [https://www.reddit.com/r/splatoon/comments/yc0p88/in_case_you_were_wondering_why_the_flyfish_is/ post on reddit] on the top comment by [https://www.reddit.com/user/VritraReiRei/ VirtaReiRei] using the suggested [[commons:File:Venn's_four_ellipse_construction.svg|Link]] & I noticed that you couldn't get the required images directly from the page
:::The List of Enemies I think I can turn into a more detailed version with the overall implied idea from this thread, I'mma be working on it in my [[User:OcttKing/Sandbox|sandbox]] [[User:OcttKing|(K]] ([[User talk:OcttKing|talk]]) 16:11, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
::::List of Octarians and List of Salmonids are uneeded lists, as a user can use <nowiki>{{navbox/Salmonids}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{navbox/Octarians}}</nowiki> to see the lists; there are also lists on the respective pages, therefore the list pages are redundant and unused. But, the list of all enemies page is very useful at times, maybe it could find a place on the characters page or could get it's own navigation [though it might also be repetitive since Navboxes for the game's characters including enemies already exist].
::::It could probably be expanded upon in a sandbox and then returned to mainspace. {{User:Random/Sig}} 16:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::that is my current plan [[User:OcttKing|(K]] ([[User talk:OcttKing|talk]]) 16:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
:::Definitely a solution I would prefer, as I'm more than fine with List of Enemies continuing to exist as long as we can find a place for it. It's a good list. The other two are definitely redundant though. [[User:Bruhsfx2dotwav|Bruhsfx2dotwav]] ([[User talk:Bruhsfx2dotwav|talk]]) 20:55, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
::::So we are all in agreement;
::::Keep list of enemies
::::delete list of octarians & salmonids [[User:OcttKing|(K]] ([[User talk:OcttKing|talk]]) 16:25, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::In my sandbox I have a new list of enemies ready to go then we could use that one? [[User:OcttKing|(K]] ([[User talk:OcttKing|talk]]) 16:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
:::::Right. {{User:Random/Sig}} 18:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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High Deletion Count I believe ain't needed

You recently added deletion notices for List of Salmonids, Octarians, & Enemies.

For the Octarians The reason given is the list was already provided on the main page, However the list itself contains information not equipped within the original page but rather only subcategorizes, and the list itself further details and sorts the subcategorizes and shows which never actually appears in game.

Now for the salmonids I can partially understand, since it mostly contradicts the previous statement, But the shown information does not give higher detail while the list itself does, In some areas If this does have to get deleted it should be transferred to Salmon Run Next Wave Data

For the list of Enemies there is no proper organization of all the enemies across all games to quote User:6-Frisk : "I know and understand the reasoning behind the deletion request, … It actually benefits from being in a table and gives a convenient overview of [what] … enemies exist, something that I don't think is present anywhere else? I think this one should stay somewhere on the wiki." (K (talk) 00:28, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

First things first, thank you for prompting some discussion here. More than happy to try to explain where I'm coming from here. I will say that deletion isn't necessarily my goal here, I just don't think these lists need to be in mainspace when we already have all of this information available. Now, I'll go through the lists one by one.
List of Octarians is really well organized, and I like the fact that it shows all the mode-specific variants for each type and shows what appears in each game. With that being said, all of this information is conveyed (in a less-clear format, I will concede) in Octarian, with it even having links to the mode-specific variants in general. Also, could you clarify what you mean by it showing what "never actually appears in-game"?
List of Salmonids is essentially a carbon-copy of Salmonid#Types of Salmonid, but with more images. I don't think we need to have it. Also, again, could you clarify what parts should be transferred to Salmon Run Next Wave data? I don't see anything that isn't already on that page.
Talk:List of Octarians has my response to what User:6-Frisk said, but I'll repeat it here for convenience. List of Enemies is a really good, well-organized list, but considering how broad it is and how few situations there are that would need it, it ends up being (to me) cruft. I think it would be a wonderful resource as a userpage, but it doesn't need to reside in mainspace.
Happy to discuss this, thanks again for reaching out. :) Bruhsfx2dotwav (talk) 00:58, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
List of Octarians and List of Salmonids are both redundant, but List of Enemies as a whole is useful itself. It could probably find a spot somewhere on the Inkipedia, if not, it could always be a sandbox; though sandboxes are usually for upcoming content not ready to be released into mainspace.
I think the deletion notice should be replaced with a move notice. -Random 15:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
For the list of Octarians What I mean by "never actually appears in game" is the Shielded Sanitized Twintacle Octodiver, You would expect that to exist since the model for it does however through all the stations in the Deepsea metro it does not appear once.
I agree with salmonids It was originally an ambition project* I didn't think 100% through but then as follow up I created the Octarians and enemies, Now I doubt the Salmonids was ever needed but the others do have some use
  • The ambition was in that I was trying to make a more detailed version of this post on reddit on the top comment by VirtaReiRei using the suggested Link & I noticed that you couldn't get the required images directly from the page
The List of Enemies I think I can turn into a more detailed version with the overall implied idea from this thread, I'mma be working on it in my sandbox (K (talk) 16:11, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
List of Octarians and List of Salmonids are uneeded lists, as a user can use {{navbox/Salmonids}} and {{navbox/Octarians}} to see the lists; there are also lists on the respective pages, therefore the list pages are redundant and unused. But, the list of all enemies page is very useful at times, maybe it could find a place on the characters page or could get it's own navigation [though it might also be repetitive since Navboxes for the game's characters including enemies already exist].
It could probably be expanded upon in a sandbox and then returned to mainspace. -Random 16:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
that is my current plan (K (talk) 16:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Definitely a solution I would prefer, as I'm more than fine with List of Enemies continuing to exist as long as we can find a place for it. It's a good list. The other two are definitely redundant though. Bruhsfx2dotwav (talk) 20:55, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So we are all in agreement;
Keep list of enemies
delete list of octarians & salmonids (K (talk) 16:25, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In my sandbox I have a new list of enemies ready to go then we could use that one? (K (talk) 16:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Right. -Random 18:03, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]