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<p class="textwidget">Welcome to the '''Ink Pump'''. Similar to Wikipedia's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump Village Pump], the Ink Pump serves as a general place for the Inkipedia community to discuss the wiki as a whole, whether it be ideas, proposals, technical issues, or notices.<br /><br />
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== Consensus template ==
== Gear navbox renovations ==
With the recent difficulties of getting formal consensus to make decisions, I'd like to suggest that we make a template that can be used to mark a major discussion. Pages with the template could be linked to on Recent Changes via a category or something. {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 20:09, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
: I think we need clear guidelines on what makes a major discussion, and what is a consensus. A lot of decisions are made off-site now on Discord simply because it's real time chat and those on the server get notifications about it. Is a major discussion one that is time-pressured? Site-wide change? Site-interface change? Affects some (but not all) users, such as mobile? As for consensus--'''[[User:Sigma|<font color="#ff370a">Sigma</font>]]'''[[User talk:Sigma|<small><font color="#ff370a"> talk</font></small>]] 04:41, 30 July 2017 (UTC)... perhaps a time limit and if no-one bothers to vote then the motion is passed as a "not enough care one way or another".
: We can certainly add more quick links to the top of Recent Changes via [[MediaWiki:Recentchangestext]] and to [[Inkipedia:Maintenance]] with the number of ongoing discussions (pages in the category). Perhaps make a quick filter list for [https://splatoonwiki.org/w/index.php?namespace=1&tagfilter=&title=Special%3ARecentChanges recent discussions], though I don't think you can filter by multiple namespaces?
: We could make use of the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] for really important discussions.
: {{User:Kjhf/Sig}} 11:30, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
:: I've [[Inkipedia:Consensus|made a consensus policy]] based on SmashWiki's to address your concern. {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 13:22, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
: Seems like a good idea. Many discussions never get anywhere because people don't have easy access to them. Making them accessible on the recent changes list would solve that. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 22:24, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Bump now that [[INK:CONSENSUS]] has been passed. {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 22:18, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
:[[User:Nyargleblargle/Drafts/Maintenance|This]] is what the link would look like (I also added some other maintenance links beside it). {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 20:45, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


== Splatoon 2 Hero Mode Placement ==
The current gear navboxes sort the gear per initial rarity/star count/star power; I find this sorting system isn't very useful and it's overall difficult to imagine even a very gear-focused player preferring to sort by star power of all things. I've prepared a [[User:Yoshifan52/Sandbox/Gearnav|demonstration of gear navboxes]] in which gear is sorted by brand instead, and would like to propose these as a potential replacement for the current ones. I've also included a variation where per-gear icons are present; I imagine most players do not have most gear pieces' names committed to memory thus icons can help with navigation, though there may be concerns with article loading times as a result of adding a lot of icons.


The placement of the Sardinium looks absolutely ridiculous (e.x [[Return of the Octarians]]), it should be placed after the Sunken Scroll information. When compared to the original Hero Mode Information (e.x [[Octotrooper Hideout]]) it looks sloppy and disorganized. --<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92</font> 04:03, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
As this would be a rather large scale change affecting nearly the entire wiki, I'm eager to hear others' input on the topic. [[User:Yoshifan52|Yoshifan52]] ([[User talk:Yoshifan52|talk]]) 08:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)


: I only did that because Sardinium appeared before the Sunken Scroll in the infobox. And on that note, shouldn't "scroll" be lowercase in the infobox as it was for the Octo Valley pages? '''[[User:Sigma|<font color="#ff370a">Sigma</font>]]'''[[User talk:Sigma|<small><font color="#ff370a"> talk</font></small>]] 04:06, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
:I would like more feedback from gear-focused players but in my opinion it seems like a fair change [[User:Olivia|Olivia]] ([[User talk:Olivia|talk]]) 09:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
:I really really like this idea! Whenever I look for gear through the navbox, it's always difficult because I don't even know what star power is to begin with. I do however, know and love the brands, so this change would help me tremendously. Stay Fresh! {{User:NewSquidbeakSplatoon/Sig}} 11:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
:Having per-gear icons definitely seems very good, I think that would be sufficiently helpful on its own even without splitting navboxes based on brand (which has the side effect of making the navboxes take up significantly more space). The icons don't presently get pushed onto a new line which makes it a little confusing to read, but if that's on the table to fix, that would strike my only major complaint with it. [[User:Driftin Soul|Driftin Soul]] ([[User talk:Driftin Soul|talk]]) 17:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
::I hadn't thought about the new length potentially being an issue, good point. I'm not sure how to work around that, my understanding is the majority of gear-focused players tend to gravity towards the brand mechanics of the game rather than any other aspect that could be used as a categorization system.
::[[User:Yoshifan52/Sandbox/Gearnav#Alternative test|Here's a rough around the edges demo]] where all of S3's headgear is in one chunk, sorted alphabetically; it's still decently long, but perhaps more manageable in that department? I think it looks a bit too plain and somewhat messy without a categorization system. Not sure what other approach can be taken... [[User:Yoshifan52|Yoshifan52]] ([[User talk:Yoshifan52|talk]]) 20:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Would it be possible to, within the infobox, collapse by default all brands that the page does ''not'' belong to? That's one possible solution that comes to mind.
:::Having it split by starting letter (again, non-applicable letters collapsed) could be a similar approach. [[User:Driftin Soul|Driftin Soul]] ([[User talk:Driftin Soul|talk]]) 20:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure it would be possible to automate that (and setting it up manually would be unnecessarily messy and complex)... [[User:Yoshifan52|Yoshifan52]] ([[User talk:Yoshifan52|talk]]) 20:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::Hmm... yeah, if it can't be automated that's definitely a big strike against it. Would definitely also result in some weird edge cases with gear that changed brands (and/or names) between games. [[User:Driftin Soul|Driftin Soul]] ([[User talk:Driftin Soul|talk]]) 21:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Your demo is really nice!!! I love the gear organized one better tho, is the best option imo. We should think really hard and see which one comes out on top! The alphebetical one is nice, but I don't know. Looks kinda like '''BLUHHHERESEVERYSINGLEHEADGEARRIGHTINFRONTOFYOUIF YOUWANNAFINDSOMETHINGYOUGOTTALOOKTHROUGHITALLBLUUH''' Not really very optimal, right? It's not bad, just not the best. Stay Fresh! {{User:NewSquidbeakSplatoon/Sig}} 21:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
::::Trig's sent me [[User:Trig Jegman/Gearnav|this demo]] as an alternative with the perspective of a player who doesn't care much for gear/brands. I think this format handles the length issue while making it read better; what do you think? I still like my by-brand categorization but I'm not sure it's the most practical. [[User:Yoshifan52|Yoshifan52]] ([[User talk:Yoshifan52|talk]]) 00:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::Oh I like that
:::::Solves my issues with the gear names/icons ending up on different lines if nothing else, which helps readability a lot. [[User:Driftin Soul|Driftin Soul]] ([[User talk:Driftin Soul|talk]]) 00:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::Apologies for the huge delay; I've [[User:Yoshifan52/Sandbox/Gearnav|updated my demo]] to match the formatting system Trig sent. I've added per-brand navboxes as well: the idea is a piece of gear's page would list both types of navbox. For example, the page for Barrelfish Baseball Hat would feature a navbox for all S3 headgear, as well as a navbox for all S3 Skalop gear. This might get a bit busy in cases where a single piece of gear has been in all three games thus far, but overall seems to be the best possible option for per-brand navboxes. Let me know what you think! [[User:Yoshifan52|Yoshifan52]] ([[User talk:Yoshifan52|talk]]) 04:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Wow… this is absolutely incredible!!! Must've took some hard work to take the current format and rework it per game and category, then do it again for gear brand and game! Some of the spacings are a bit awkward, but I'm on mobile so that might be it? Still looks amazing! It's wonderful! I hope everyone else thinks the same. Stay Fresh! {{User:NewSquidbeakSplatoon/Sig}} 21:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)


:: I understand the confusion, but we should try to keep to the original format from Splatoon 1. On another note we should change the scroll to lowercase to keep with the original format.--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92</font> 04:17, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
:I find it difficult to find particular gear in the current navboxes. I usually use the lists (like this one [[List of headgear in Splatoon 3]]) instead. I prefer the variation with icons. I think the icons make it much easier to find items. The weapon navboxes also have icons, so including icons in the gear navboxes will make them more similar.  {{User:GX 64/Sig}} 00:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
:I certainly support using icons, they greatly improve navigation because users are much more likely to remember a piece of gear based on its appearance than its name. Honestly I am neutral on how to split them, star power is least useful but does split in a neat way, brand is most useful but makes the nav incredibly long, and no split at all is a neat compromise but I think it's a little weird having a nav with zero split. But if there's no need for a split then, well it doesn't need one. So I essentially support all three, yeah not very helpful I know. - [[User:Harristic|Harristic]] ([[User talk:Harristic|talk]]) 00:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


::: To be fair, Sardinium wasn't in Splatoon. '''[[User:Sigma|<font color="#ff370a">Sigma</font>]]'''[[User talk:Sigma|<small><font color="#ff370a"> talk</font></small>]] 04:41, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
Having every gear icon load on every gear page may bloat up the pages considerably. I think this is one of the reasons the weapon pages are so heavy on load time. Is there another method that could be used to make things easier to find without adding images? [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 00:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


:::: I understand where you are coming from and maybe we should try to work together. It might prevent stepping on eachother's toes.--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92</font> 04:45, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
:Heddy is right, would significantly increase load time, because there is a lot, and I mean '''A LOT''' more gear than there are weapons. I'm not sure how to tackle this, because Harristic is right. I remember something better off of appearance than name, because if I saw it on say, a Reddit post, I wouldn't know the name. I'd come to Inkipedia and look at the images to find it! Maybe if we could somehow compress the file or something similar, to be able to handle it better and not make 10 minute load times. I don't know if that is possible, but yeah. To sum it up, make the images easier to present, so it doesn't slow the website down. Stay Fresh! {{User:NewSquidbeakSplatoon/Sig}} 01:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


== Remove recommendations from weapon articles ==
== What are we going to do about Hong Kong and South Korea? ==


It's time to overhaul the weapon articles! But before we do that, can we get consensus to remove the recommended abilities and recommended gear sections from weapon articles? These are the reasons:
As the title says, what are we going to do about Hong Kong and South Korea for the Splatfest navboxes (the previous and next template)? For reference, during region-locked Splatfests, North America, Europe, and Japan all have their separate navboxes, however, Hong Kong and South Korea do not. Are they going to get their own, separate navbox on Splatoon 3's region-locked Splatfest pages, or are they going to be combined with one of the already existing ones?
*Consistency. Many articles do not have these sections, so removing them altogether will make the wiki more consistent.
*Conflict. One editor may believe that Ninja Squid helps a Carbon Roller player due to the stealth effect. Another editor may believe that the ability is a bad choice for a Carbon Roller player because of the -10% swim speed penalty. Who is right? Well they're both right about any facts they provide, but their opinions don't really belong here. The objective facts should be stated, on the Ninja Squid article and not the Carbon Roller article:
**Ninja Squid helps players by providing for stealthy movement.
**Ninja Squid hurts players by slowing down their movement.
*Workload. This ties in with consistency. If one article has a section but another does not, work has to be done to give the latter article the needed content. This has proven to be too much work: the second game in the series came out, but these sections were still not present in articles for the first game's weapons. Let's reduce the workload so we can focus on more important things. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 15:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
:I'd suggest reformatting the sections to take a more fact-based angle ("major users of this weapon, such as so and so, generally utilize these abilities"), but I think the competitive meta should still be discussed somewhere on this wiki until we finally get the Competitive namespace. {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 15:54, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
:I believe that this is subjective and should have no place in the main article space. [[File:Inkling luke.png|40px|link=User:Lukey140701]] [[File:Inkling talk.png|50px|link=User talk:Lukey140701]] 15:59, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
:What I ''want'' to do is make a new Competitive: namespace for all the strategy/metagame content and leave all subjective material out of Main: entirely. The biggest obstacle to that is compelling Prod to add the namespace. (-: [[User:GuyPerfect|GuyPerfect]] ([[User talk:GuyPerfect|talk]]) 16:01, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
::What do we do in the meantime? Perhaps drafts? {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 16:02, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
::I'm not sure the namespace should be called competitive. Some strategy content is on articles about a cooperative game type, Salmon Run. Why not "strategy"? The content we are wanting to move all fits the definition of the word strategy: "a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim." [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 17:53, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
:::The vast majority of the content being moved is team/tournament pages. [[File:Inkling luke.png|40px|link=User:Lukey140701]] [[File:Inkling talk.png|50px|link=User talk:Lukey140701]] 18:14, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
::::Why would that stuff be moved too? I thought we were talking about banishing subjective content from mainspace. Teams are not subjective, and according to the inkipedia policy they belong on mainspace as long as they meet an eligibility criteria, and they should be a separate discussion anyways. "strategy" is soooo much better than "competitive" for the type of content I'm talking about moving. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 18:34, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
:I think there should still be a mention in the main weapon pages to abilities that benefit from weapon's weakness spot such as slow movement for Splatlings and the strong point of having Run Speed up against that weapon's weak spot of slow movement while charging and firing. {{User:Shachar700/Sig}} 16:25, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
::I agree, Shachar, that it should be mentioned, but not in Main. Perhaps we could link the strategy articles to the Main articles. [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 15:26, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


== Gear Article placement ==
I asked this before [https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Handshake_vs._Fist_Bump_vs._Hug here], but it was ignored. {{User:Random/Sig}} 19:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)


Looking at Gear articles of clothes that appear in Splatoon 1 and 2, The info for Splatoon 2 is listed first, than Splatoon 1. Is this the decided format, because honestly I'm not a fan and I believe that it should be listed chronologically.
:From what I have been told by other editors, it is currently impossible for HK and SK to have their own set Splatfest; their theme & results always have to be combined with one of the other three regions. As such, I don't think we have to be concerned about it unless something changes in the future to allow unique themes & results. [[User:Driftin Soul|Driftin Soul]] ([[User talk:Driftin Soul|talk]]) 19:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
[[User:KingAwesome467|KingAwesome467]] ([[User talk:KingAwesome467|talk]]) 19:38, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
::Alright. {{User:Random/Sig}} 20:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
:They are listed chronologically, just in reverse for the convenience of readers. What benefit is there to not having it reversed? [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 20:11, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
::I don't know, it just looks tacky to me, and I'm used to so many other Wikis (including other NIWA Wikis listing things chronologically going down), as it's like showing the history and evolution of this item clothing throughout the games and time.I mean Wiki's are basically encyclopedia's, meant to inform and tell history, and while I don't know much about actually encyclopedias, I'm sure most don't start from the present and work backwards. Would it really kill them to scroll down for half a second or use the table of contents? I know it's just my opinion and it doesn't really matter, but it really rubs me the wrong way. [[User:KingAwesome467|KingAwesome467]] ([[User talk:KingAwesome467|talk]]) 21:27, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
bump? [[User:KingAwesome467|KingAwesome467]] ([[User talk:KingAwesome467|talk]]) 20:15, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
:I guess it would be okay for the gear articles. I just want articles like [[Splatfest]] and [[List of updates in Splatoon 2]] to always have the most relevant info at the top. I am interested in hearing others' opinions on this topic. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 21:33, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


== Weapon page format ==
== How do I put pictures from my photo gallery onto my page? ==


Regardless of the earlier split discussion, I feel the current layout of multi-game weapons and gear is absolutely unacceptable. It's effectively a soft page split with everything about the items (even what their iterations have in common!) segregated by game and infoboxes deep within the page.
This is probably the stupidest question ever, but I need help. I use Inkipedia from my phone, and I was trying to create my user page, but I couldn't find anything for importing a photo from my phone's gallery. Is there any way to do that or do I have to do something crazy like download it? [[User:Sandy&#38;Altie|Sandy&#38;Altie]] ([[User talk:Sandy&#38;Altie|talk]]) 15:34, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Therefore, I suggest two alternatives:
#Rewrite the pages to use a single infobox for both games and combine redundant information.
#While this was very divisive earlier, I think splitting by game basically has the same result as the current system, but is easier to navigate.
Anyone object to either of these? Have a better suggestion? {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 19:02, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
:I agree that I'm not a fan of this new format adds alot of unnecessary length to the articles with 2 very similiar infoboxes, and I prefer the previous infobox format. I'm also personally strongly against putting things in reverse chronological order. [[User:KingAwesome467|KingAwesome467]] ([[User talk:KingAwesome467|talk]]) 16:42, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
:The first thing you see in the infobox is the image of the weapon/gear, which looks slightly different in each game. Unless you are proposing having both images in the infobox, which would bloat it considerably, combining the infoboxes doesn't seem like a good idea. There is usually enough info that is different anyways. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 02:41, 31 August 2017 (UTC)


== Flag for NoA Spanish ==
:To upload an image, you need to go to the [[Special:Upload|File Upload]] page. Before you upload an image, read the image guidelines and the file template information provided at the top of the page so you know the wiki's policies about uploading files! Keep in mind, users can have at most 7 personal images for their userpages. To display the image on your userpage, you would write [<nowiki/>[File:Your file's name.jpg|50px]] You can increase the image's size on your page by entering a bigger number before the px, I used 50 as an example. If you do increase the size make sure the image doesn't go off the side of the page. Hope this helps!! {{User:Oddlilgoof/Sig}}  16:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
::if u are getting the pics from ur switch u have to click share then click send to smartphone [[User:Faulty chair|Faulty chair]] ([[User talk:Faulty chair|talk]]) 12:07, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


A little suggestion, I would like to ask for the flag being used when referring to the NoA Spanish localizations to be changed from the Mexican flag to the [[Wikipedia:Community of Latin American and Caribbean States|CELAC]] flag. The localization is aimed towards Spanish speakers throughout the Americas (not just for Mexico), and the Zelda Wiki and Bulbapedia already use it. [[User:Hadamsj|Hadamsj]] ([[User talk:Hadamsj|talk]]) 00:56, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
== Salmon Run "Tips" sections ==


== Octo Canyon Mission Galleries ==
So it's been bothering me for a while, the Tips sections on Salmon Run related pages are not great. They have to be miles long to cover all relevant info (For example: [[Rush]]), they don't separate info between games, they actively recommend mediocre to bad strategies (wall clinging on Rush), they gloss over Snatcher optimization, etc... I want to fix them, but for the pages to be actually helpful and as extensive as I think they should be, they would most likely need to be separate from the regular pages to keep it organized.


I need a quick solution. In Splatoon 1 I gathered a bunch of images for hero mode and each page had a different number of images in their respective galleries. For Splatoon 2 I want each page to be more streamlined and even with each other.
Something related to this was brought up in the discord and StrategyWiki was mentioned, but when I asked if that's where this should really go I didn't get a reply; I've been told that StrategyWiki mainly focuses on singleplayer or games with linear levels so I'm not sure if Salmon Run would fit there in the first place. I had the thought of making competitive-like pages for it since Big Run and Eggstra Work are in-game competitive events, but I don't think that's the intended use for the namespace. But surely we could figure something out?
I know that the checkpoints and collectibles each get one or two images per section, but how many images should the gallery portion have?  --<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92</font> 07:10, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
:3 images per gallery should give a good foundation for others to build on. However there should not be a limit. If one mission has more to show off than another, it should have more images. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 23:26, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


== Stage Quotes  ==
The main reason I want to do something about this is that Salmon Run has been my favorite part of Splatoon since S2, but in general it has no central resource for information. Most is spread across youtube videos, discord servers, and google docs linked through either of those, which is extremely inaccessible. I know Salmon Run isn't nearly as popular as the PvP, but it's still a full game mode and if we're going to have gameplay advice for it at all I think we should have it more organized than it is now. I'm not even necessarily advocating for overfishing strategies to be covered since I know that community is pretty niche.


I have a handwritten list of stage quotes from Splatoon 2 and I was wondering  how I should go about implementing them. I am not to familiar with adding new quotes.--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92</font> 09:11, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
To summarize: The Salmon Run pages' Tips sections are annoying to read at best and unhelpful at worst. I would like to make proper strategy pages ''somewhere'', but I don't know if that's something others believe would belong on Inkipedia specifically. Hoping to start a discussion here. [[User:Sourguppyworm|Sourguppyworm]] ([[User talk:Sourguppyworm|talk]]) 22:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
: If by stage you mean the multiplayer stages then you would not have to do anything original. Just follow the existing example set on each stage article. Like this:
<pre>
{{StageQuotes
|C=Pearl
|M=Marina
|C1A=Line of dialogue from Pearl
|M1A=Line of dialogue from Marina
|R1A=NOE, NOA (regions go here)
|C2A=
|M2A=
|R2A=
}}
</pre>
: Consider joining our [[Inkipedia:Discord|Discord]] server for real-time help with this. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 02:43, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks again for the help. Once I get in from work I'll type up as much of the quotes as I can.--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92</font> 02:58, 18 November 2017 (UTC)


== Updating the Older Hero Mode Sections ==
:Maybe you could make a sub section of inkipedia that foucuses only on grizzco related things. that way it gets eaiser to navagate. i would help, but i dont know much code. i can give ideas tho [[User:Squidkid34|Squidkid34]] ([[User talk:Squidkid34|talk]]) 12:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for your reply! That's kind of close to what I was thinking of, as I mentioned I thought we could do something similar to the Competitive namespace. But there doesn't seem to have been any interest in it since I posted this last month, so I've just been working on my own offsite guide instead 😅... [[User:Sourguppyworm|Sourguppyworm]] ([[User talk:Sourguppyworm|talk]]) 02:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


With the recent updates with the older Hero Mode articles, I was wondering if we should keep the pictures of the quotes or should we delete them? Splatoon 2's Hero Mode articles don't have photos of the quotes and I think that it looks a million times better. Any suggestions would be much appreciated--<font color="##3a5fcd">Snowwarrior92</font> 06:27, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
== Trivia section ==
:The images are great because they show context of each quote. As a bonus, they make it super easy to verify that the person who wrote the quote on Inkipedia spelled and colored text correctly. Feel free to not add them to new articles, but removing any valid contributions from existing articles isn't a good idea. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 22:34, 30 December 2017 (UTC)


== Updating the Amiibo articles ==
I've noticed that a lot of the trivia sections for some pages say tidbits but don't specify in which game it comes from, such as [[Flounder Heights]] mentioning the ghost in one of the apartments, but it doesn't specify that it's only in Splatoon 3. Another good example is the [[Hero Suit]] page mentioning Agent 3, but once again, does not say which Agent 3. Should we add subsections or a note in those kinds of entries? [[User:Rozelia The Octo06|Rozelia The Octo06]] ([[User talk:Rozelia The Octo06|talk]]) 22:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


So the Amiibo pages could still use some work. Not all the information is there, and some of it is on side pages and not the main Amiibo page. [[User:Roboat06|Roboat06]] ([[User talk:Roboat06|talk]]) 02:09, 24 February 2018
:The game which the trivia is from should be mentioned. The way that the game is specified is slightly inconsistent across different pages, but it seems to be either mentioning which game it's from in the trivia item (like some of the trivia here [[Cuttlefish#Trivia]]), or split into different sections for each game (like these pages [[Agent 3 (Splatoon)#Trivia]], [[Judd#Trivia]]). The different sections seem to be used when there is a larger amount of trivia. {{User:GX 64/Sig}} 05:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
:[[User:Hinamin]] seems to have been doing some great work on that. See [[Special:Contributions/Hinamin]] for the changes in the personal userspace -{{User:Inkrid/Sig}} 08:37, 25 February 2018 (UTC)


== What Can I Do to Help? ==
== Coloring color chip template ==


Hey my fellow squids. Is there any major projects that need dire help that I can sink my fangs into?--[[User:WhistlingSquid|WhistlingSquid]] ([[User talk:WhistlingSquid|talk]]) 01:58, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
is it possible to color the color chip template? I tried to link color it, but it's not working. This kinda applies to other templates w text. [[File:RotM Icon Frye.png|25px|link=User:Squidcat]] <span style="border-radius:20px;background-color:#e6e6e6;padding:5px">[[User:Squidcat|<span style="color:#000000">'''Squidcat''']] [[User talk:Squidcat|<span style="color:#404040">(talk)</span>]]</span> 13:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
:Go here: [[Inkipedia:Maintenance]]. You're welcooommme!
:[[User:Modderkin64|~Modder]] ([[User talk:Modderkin64|talk]]) 19:26, 16 July 2018 (UTC)


== Weird Formating  ==
== Pretendo ==


There are several pages that don't follow the same formatting as the rest of the site. Should I go ahead and fix them or should I get permission?--[[User:WhistlingSquid|WhistlingSquid]] ([[User talk:WhistlingSquid|talk]]) 02:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Now that Nintendo Network has been discontinued, should we make a page documenting the Splatoon side of Pretendo? They have now released a hackless way of connecting to thier servers and it runs just like Nintendo Network. Thanks, [[User:CodingAsteroid|CodingAsteroid]] ([[User talk:CodingAsteroid|talk]]) 12:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)


== Idea for new feature: Task Suggestions Suggestion Categorizing ==
:As it is not an officially-endorsed service (with some legal dubiousness), I would advise against it: It is not what the developers had intended in an official capacity, and I ''really'' don't want to seem like Inkipedia is supporting or endorsing the product because that could turn around and hurt ''us''. Unless something notable happens like the scheduled rotations not working as anticipated, I think mention of the service at all should be zero to minimal. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 13:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
::Ok. Thanks for the feedback!  [[User:CodingAsteroid|CodingAsteroid]] ([[User talk:CodingAsteroid|talk]]) 07:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


I joined this wiki about two weeks ago, because I wanted to be part of the community. I have made some small contributions so far, and I enjoy it. Problem is, through, that I am not able to easily find tasks that I can help with. I am thinking that maybe we could use a feature where we can add 'subjects' to templates like the 'ToDo' and the 'Images' tags, so that editors might be able to search for them and find stuff to do that way. Or even better, they might be able to specify what 'subjects' they are capable of helping with somewhere, and then a special page will be generated that the editor can access every time they are looking for ways to contribute. It is just a suggestion, but if possible, I would be glad to help make this a thing. -[[User:Tecanec|tecanec]] ([[User talk:Tecanec|talk]]) 15:50, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
== Improving mobile layout for Navbox ==


== New Idea for Mission Mode Quotes ==
The existing Navbox layout is horizontal, due to section headings being placed on the left. This makes them not work very well on mobile devices, which has narrow screens on portrait mode. I am testing a modification to the Navbox layout for mobile view: by moving the section headings to the top of each sections, the layout becomes more mobile-friendly. The desktop layout stays the same as the current one.


How does this look? Compare https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/User:WhistlingSquid/hero_mode_format to the original format https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Return_of_the_Octarians--[[User:WhistlingSquid|WhistlingSquid]] ([[User talk:WhistlingSquid|talk]]) 01:47, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
You can preview this on [[User:Harimaron/Sandbox#Navbox]]. The mobile layout will only activate if the viewport is narrow enough, so you can test it by viewing it on mobile or by reducing the width of your web browser window. I would appreciate any comments. [[User:Harimaron|Harimaron]] ([[User talk:Harimaron|talk]]) 16:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
: I like that new format because it saves space. It also looks like it would be easy to change later if someone needed to, so don't worry about using it. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 01:58, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
:: Thanks Heddy. I'll get right on working on the quotes throughout the next couple of days.--[[User:WhistlingSquid|WhistlingSquid]] ([[User talk:WhistlingSquid|talk]]) 02:03, 25 June 2018 (UTC)


== Retooling Mission Modes ==
:I have applied this change which should now be in effect for all Navboxes. [[User:Harimaron|Harimaron]] ([[User talk:Harimaron|talk]]) 14:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 
I worked most of the night and wanted to know if the quote table and maybe one of the gallery sizes could be used in the mission mode segments?
 
https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/User:WhistlingSquid/hero_mode_format--[[User:WhistlingSquid|WhistlingSquid]] ([[User talk:WhistlingSquid|talk]]) 08:37, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
 
== Player-made minigames ==
 
I remember seeing, a while back, an article with several player made gamemodes for private battle. I cannot recall the name of the article, and believe it should be made more accessible. [[User:Agent 7|Agent 7]] ([[User talk:Agent 7|talk]]) 19:28, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 
:See [[fan modes]]. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 23:13, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::How do I add another mode in the same format? [[User:Agent 7|Agent 7]] ([[User talk:Agent 7|talk]]) 14:12, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
:::That article had a really bad format. It should just be text, not images. Images are only easily editable by the creator of the image, so they should not be used at all to format that article's content. I restored sane formatting to the article to make it easy to edit. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 18:12, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 
== Splatoon AUs and Stories ==
 
Many people have stories about Splatoon, right? My idea is to create a new wiki for Fandom content (Like the Pikmin Fanon wiki on NIWA). Any alternate versions or stories about Splatoon can be added here for people to find. It's made in a similar fashion to the UnderTale AU Wiki (See Here:[https://undertale-au.wikia.com/wiki/Undertale_AU_Wiki]).
 
[[User:Modderkin64|Modderkin64]] ([[User talk:Modderkin64|talk]]) 21:25, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 
:This wiki isn't willing to host such content and we aren't currently interested in setting one up, however you're able to make your own Wikia for it. [[File:Inkling luke.png|40px|link=User:Lukey140701]] [[File:Inkling talk.png|50px|link=User talk:Lukey140701]] 21:56, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::I'm asking someone else to make it, because my computer is old and I can't download MediaWiki until I get a new one. [[User:Modderkin64|~Modder]] ([[User talk:Modderkin64|talk]]) 22:45, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
 
:::You wouldn't have to download anything, just use a free wiki service such as [http://www.wikia.com/Special:CreateNewWiki FANDOM]. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 00:13, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Ok, I made one right here: [https://splatoon-stories.wikia.com/wiki/Splatoon_AU_%26_Story_Wiki]. Is it possible for it to be linked to Inkipedia so people can find it easier? Or have someone make an announcement about it?
::::[[User:Modderkin64|~Modder]] ([[User talk:Modderkin64|talk]]) 17:58, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::Like we said before, we won't probably partner with a wiki of that nature but you are most welcome to use us as source ;) and you can always link to your site on your talk page. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 19:49, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 
== Addressing the Octolings with the Inklings ==
 
How should we address the players' character in the wiki? Putting down "Inklings and Octolings" every single time seems a bit awkward in terms of flow, so is there an term that can be used to address the players' character regardless of species? [[User:Kenderman123|Kenderman123]] ([[User talk:Kenderman123|talk]]) 16:31, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
:Maybe mollusks since both squids and octopuses both are mollusks? [[User:Pinkyoshifan|Pinkyoshifan]] ([[User talk:Pinkyoshifan|talk]]) 17:22, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
::Just saying "player" would be sufficient in most cases. If not, maybe try "player character", "character", or "cephalopod". [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 23:42, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
:::I coined "Cephalings". Heh, nobody's gonna use that. "Inkling" is OK when talking about ''[[Splatoon]]'', but I'd just use "character". [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 23:01, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 
== Section for in-game songs? ==
 
How about we create a section for in-game songs? This could include the Japanese lyrics, Romaji transliteration, and unofficial English interpretations. Music is a big part of ''Splatoon 2'', so I think it could be helpful to visitors. I already have some unofficial english lyrics for two songs, mine and someone else's that I edited. [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 01:39, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
:I'm all for it, except for the unofficial lyrics part.  Inkipedia tends to be a collection of facts and some conjecture.. all based on official sources.  Adding unofficial material may not be conducive to Inkipedia's goals.  Then again, I'm not a mod  *heh*  -[[User:DJParticle|DJParticle]] ([[User talk:DJParticle|talk]]) 04:58, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
::Great! So does that mean I can create it, or do I have to get permission from a mod? (I'm new sorry hehe) [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 09:22, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
:Are the Japanese lyrics official? Do the Japanese lyrics have meaning, or are they just gibberish? By "unofficial english lyrics" do you mean that it would simply be a fan translation of official lyrics? [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 21:22, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
::It's just gibberish, but it is official (printed in the liner notes of the soundtrack albums).  As for "unofficial English lyrics", that's usually just fans making their own English lyrics for the songs.  The only canonical English lyric translation is the first couple lines of "Bomb Rush Blush", which show up as a Callie word balloon in the opening moments of the Splatoon 2 boss fight. -[[User:DJParticle|DJParticle]] ([[User talk:DJParticle|talk]]) 22:07, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
:So, I have the Japanese lyrics and Romaji transliteration (if that's okay?) for a few songs, so can I go ahead and make it? [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 00:04, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
::Sure, here is the article to add the lyrics to: [[Splatune 2 (Splatoon 2 Original Soundtrack)]]. Looks like there are already some lyrics there. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 00:49, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Actually, I made a disambiguation page that has a list of songs that have had their official lyrics released: [[Lyrics]]. All the songs already have the lyrics and transliterations on there in some form or another, although I'd imagine having them all on one page wouldn't be a bad idea either. [[User:Hadamsj|Hadamsj]] ([[User talk:Hadamsj|talk]]) 01:10, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
::::Oh, the songs I did have the lyrics for already have lyrics, so never mind. I might think about making a page that has all the lyrics that are currently available, would that be a good idea? [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 03:26, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
:::: Are there lyrics for all the songs, or just the Squid Sisters and Off the Hook Songs? [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 15:09, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 
== Youtubers? ==
 
Do you think we could make a section about “splatubers”?
Do you think this could be useful or not?
[[User:LightningEYT|LightningEYT]] ([[User talk:LightningEYT|talk]]) 04:39, 4 August 2018 (UTC)Lightning Emerald
:I think that could be very useful, but I don't know if the mods would like it; it's not necessarily "facts", although I'm all for it- [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 09:03, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
::I could see it being added as a category to add user pages to. -[[User:DJParticle|DJParticle]] ([[User talk:DJParticle|talk]]) 09:11, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
== Policy for non-Splatoon content with Splatoon characters? Suggestion ==
 
''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'' is comming out soon, and it includes Inklings, so like many other non-smash NIWA-wikis, we already have [[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate|an article covering it]]. However, I think we could use a policy to keep it focused on ''Splatoon'' content.
 
My thoughts are that we should allow articles covering non-''Splatoon'' stuff, as long as the Inklings or other ''Splatoon''-derived stuff play a major role to the subject, and that the article focuses primarely on these inclusions. We may also want to include a template specifying this on the top of our article, simmalar to the Future template. Subjects not following these criteria are still covered in [[References to Splatoon in other media]].
 
--{{User:Tecanec/Sig}} 09:26, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 
*I made [[User:Tecanec/ScopeTemplate|a template]] to demonstrate. --{{User:Tecanec/Sig}} 12:50, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 
: Having a policy would be nice just in case we need to show someone a clear explanation of what is in scope and out of scope for Inkipedia. However, a page notice template is unecessary. Page notices should ideally only be used for temporary purposes, because they make it look like there is something wrong with the article. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 20:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::That makes sense. Do you think it makes more sense to change the way the template looks or remove it completely? --{{User:Tecanec/Sig}} 06:57, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
::: Remove template. Policy should be explained on policy pages, not in a permanent notice template on every applicable page. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 13:46, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 
== What should we call the Inkling language? ==
 
What exactly should we call the Inkling language? I saw a page on here (I think it was about Agent 3's cape in the Expansion) and it said Inklish, which is a fairly accepted name (I used to say it myself) but with the Fork vs Spoon splatfest, if Marina had won her dialogue read "Besides, Inkling is my second language" so that pretty much confirms it's simply called "Inkling" which is what the page dedicated to the language on here calls it, so I changed it to say Inkling. However, someone edited that to make it say "The Inkling language" or something similar, so I'm wondering what we should refer to it as? As in, should we always specify it to be the language? Or if the context already confirms it's the language, should we just say Inkling? [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 07:34, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 
: "Inkling" should be used for the language as well. The English language almost always uses demonyms for languages. "I'm Russian, it is written in Russian" or "I'm Swedish, I speak Swedish" etc. You can infer if you're talking about a group of people or a language from what context it is in. Writing "it is written in the Inkling language" thus becomes redundant, "it is written in Inkling" is enough. However, sometimes you may need to specify it as "the Inkling language", just like how I did in the sentence above about the English language. If I hadn't, the sentence would have taken another meaning (i.e English as people rather than the language). So yes, context is key here. {{User:AmbientDinosaur/Sig}} 10:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:: OK, gotcha! That's what I initially thought lol [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 10:59, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::: I've always called it Squiddish, which makes sense because Inklings and Octolings have their own languages. Have I been spreading misinformation, or does it have canon basis? [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 15:09, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::"Inkling" is the canon term, and "Octarian" is the one for the Octolings (and the rest of the Octarians). It is mentioned here and there in both games, such as during news segments. For example, [[Goby Arena/Quotes|“What are the three most embarrassing words in the Inkling language?”]] {{User:AmbientDinosaur/Sig}} 17:34, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: Makes sense, I guess. Thank you! [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 23:01, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 
== Future template is changed? ==
 
Hey, I'm curious, how come the "future" template got changed? I liked it the way it was, it seemed less like there was something wrong with the page and more of just a reminder. The question mark and the fact that the "Fuuuuture!" title was removed makes it look, again, like there's something wrong with the article. Could the administrator who did this please explain why? Thanks, [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 01:13, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
: I changed the future tag to make it smaller and less intrusive, like the stub and conjecture tags. Nothing could be more fitting for the uncertain future than a question mark. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 03:09, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
:: Well... okay, I don't agree, but I see your point. But the question mark is already in use by a few other tags, why make them all so similar? [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 03:50, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
::: There's only one other tag that uses it, which is the conjecture tag. Regardless, I restored the spongebob references to the future template because I don't have a strong opinion on this topic. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 03:46, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
:::: Oh, pfft, I didn't even know it was a spongebob reference lol. But okay, cool! Thanks! I think it looks better :D [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 03:52, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
== Updated Octarians page ==
 
I feel like the current [[Octarians]] page is a little weak with information regarding the Octarians' in-world history, origins and society. While the page has some updated information from Splatoon 2 and the Octo Expansion, The [[Inkling]] page has everything from sections on their appearance, their culture, holidays, etc, while the Octarian page just feels like it just has lists which redirect to different pages on each individual Octarian. At this point though, so much material has come out that I think we can confidently say a lot more about the Octarians than we could just a couple years ago.
 
My proposition is that a couple of us could at least try adding three new sections to the Octarians entry. Something that maybe looks more like:
*Appearance
  **Growth Cycle
*History
  **Origins
  **The Great Turf War
  **Splatoon 1
  **Splatoon 2
  **Post-Octo Expansion
*Society
  **Government
  **Culture
  **Relationship with the Inklings
  **Relationship with other species
*"Reformed" Octarians
  **Relationship with other Octarians
  **Relationship with DJ Octavio
  **"Sanitized" Octarians
 
It would require quite a bit of writing, but I'm willing to write as much as I can myself, as long as I have a couple people to help out. [[User:Octo-maker71|Octo-maker71]] ([[User talk:Octo-maker71|talk]]) 00:29, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:Hey, this sounds like a great idea! I'm all in. I'd love to help out on this! It should be added to the current projects page and have a talk page :p [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 01:39, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
::Done! :) [[User:Octo-maker71|Octo-maker71]] ([[User talk:Octo-maker71|talk]]) 02:34, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 
== Disambiguation Pages ==
 
I've seen several disambiguation pages listed in the "How can I help?" pages, specifically "Oldest pages" list. I feel they should be removed from those lists, as many of them do not need further improvements as their placement in the pages would suggest. [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 15:20, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 
== Weapons' Quotes Pages ==
 
In all honesty, I think these aren't necessary for each and every weapon. I can see why they might be nice to have in places such as the Fire Emblem Wiki for such dialogue-heavy games as those, but the quotes pages are pretty stubby. Would it be a good idea to merge those into their respective weapon pages? [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 23:08, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
:I completely agree. The weapon quote pages, although linked on their respective weapon page, are extremely small and disappointing. Having the quotes on the pages make so much more sense. [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 00:05, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 
== Uploading Captured Images From Nintendo Switch ==
 
Is it a good idea? I can definitely do it once I get a microSD and an adapter. However, I'm worried about the quality. I'm sure many images here are taken from Capture, but just wanted to put it out there in case I'm having a very bad idea. [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 15:28, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
:While using a capture card certainly is better, having an image is better than having no image. The Switch capture quality is more than usable so feel free if you're adding something new. [[File:Inkling luke.png|40px|link=User:Lukey140701]] [[File:Inkling talk.png|50px|link=User talk:Lukey140701]] 16:16, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
::You can also upload the image to Facebook or Twitter so that you can save it to your computer or mobile device. {{User:Warriorking98/Sig}} 22:41, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
:::That reduces the quality further, though if necessary taking from there is fine. [[File:Inkling luke.png|40px|link=User:Lukey140701]] [[File:Inkling talk.png|50px|link=User talk:Lukey140701]] 20:08, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::::Thank you both so much! I'll take that into consideration~! [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 17:49, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::From Twitter, if you "View Image", and add ":orig" after the extension of the file name, you get the full quality image as uploaded.  :)  -[[User:DJParticle|DJParticle]] ([[User talk:DJParticle|talk]]) 08:08, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::Just know that if you are planning to upload videos the max file size for Inkipedia is 2 megabytes so you might need to make them small and low quality
 
== Should Inkling and Octoling be capitalized? ==
 
S'pose the title says it all. I'm pretty sure I've seen both in-game and on [[Murch|murch]]andise (geddit?) but I've always written capital I and O on here. So which is it? [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 05:07, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
:I'd say capitalize both. --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 03:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 
== Idols' Ages And Lore ==
The [[Squid vs. Octopus (Splatoon 2)|Squid vs. Octopus]] Splatfest banter from Off The Hook established that one year had passed since the game premiered.  Wouldn't that make Pearl 22, Marina 19, and the Squid Sisters 20 these days?  -[[User:DJParticle|DJParticle]] ([[User talk:DJParticle|talk]]) 09:26, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
:I guess so. I mean Pearl says "SO... Y'all ready to celebrate the one-year anniversary of our show?!” in the English announcement dialogue for Squid vs. Octopus. {{User:Warriorking98/Sig}} 22:51, 19 November 2018.
::I would say so, except there's the fact that we don't know how the Inklings and Octolings measure time. It could be like dogs or cats, where 1 year = 7 years, and so on and so forth. When we say Marina is "18" could actually be 28 years in squid/octo time measures, so we don't know if they count a full year as a year for age. [[User:Splattersky|Splattersky]] ([[User talk:Splattersky|talk]]) 23:09, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Well, the Inklings and Octolings model much of their world after human civilization, so why not use their measurement systems as well? [[User:5p1k3|5p1k3]] ([[User talk:5p1k3|talk]]) 16:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 
== Poll Suggestions ==
I have been suggesting polls for a while now and noticed that, when going to the list of previous polls, almost all of them have been suggested by the same person. I feel like this means that other people are not getting the chance to show their ideas for polls. Is there anything we can do about this?--[[User:Splatana|Splatana]] ([[User talk:Splatana|talk]]) 08:38, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
:I agree with Splatana. I have suggested a few good polls and none of them have gotten on the main page.{{User:Warriorking98/Sig}} 22:01, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
:Maybe there could be a page that replaces the poll voting page every time the polls are going to change and people could vote on which poll that will appear on the main page next?--[[User:Splatana|Splatana]] ([[User talk:Splatana|talk]]) 08:33, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
:I’m taking the suggestions of the polls into consideration but some are not universal, were already or too minor. We could make a poll suggestion page but making a poll for which poll to use is kinda redundant. Talking about which one through the wiki’s discord sounds appropriate. I would really like someone to help me with the polls and put them more frequently in the wiki. If any of you would like to help, write to me in my Talk page or DM me in Discord (Shahar#3810) {{User:Shachar700/Sig}} 09:52, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 
== "This page is under construction" Template ==
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The page [[Location]] only list and talks about the places the player can travel to via the map on the Wii U Gamepad, which could fit better in the [[Map]] article.
The name is also misleading, since people searching on the wiki would probably be looking for locations in general, as a broader term, which is covered well in the [[Inkopolis]] article.
 
Other articles, such as [[Inkopolis Café]] and [[Camp Jellyfish]], are names based on conjecture and are describing inaccessable places seen from accessable areas. Are these articles really necessary, as there are many other inaccessible areas that are visible from an accessible area, such as subways, train stations, streets and etc. Should these places just be covered in the main articles for the accessable areas or could make a general article that compiles all the inaccessible areas, or just deleted?--[[User:Hinamin|Hinamin]] ([[User talk:Hinamin|talk]]) 11:30, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:27, 11 May 2024

The Ink Pump

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Gear navbox renovations

Latest comment: 31 March17 comments7 people in discussion

The current gear navboxes sort the gear per initial rarity/star count/star power; I find this sorting system isn't very useful and it's overall difficult to imagine even a very gear-focused player preferring to sort by star power of all things. I've prepared a demonstration of gear navboxes in which gear is sorted by brand instead, and would like to propose these as a potential replacement for the current ones. I've also included a variation where per-gear icons are present; I imagine most players do not have most gear pieces' names committed to memory thus icons can help with navigation, though there may be concerns with article loading times as a result of adding a lot of icons.

As this would be a rather large scale change affecting nearly the entire wiki, I'm eager to hear others' input on the topic. Yoshifan52 (talk) 08:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would like more feedback from gear-focused players but in my opinion it seems like a fair change Olivia (talk) 09:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I really really like this idea! Whenever I look for gear through the navbox, it's always difficult because I don't even know what star power is to begin with. I do however, know and love the brands, so this change would help me tremendously. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk) 11:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Having per-gear icons definitely seems very good, I think that would be sufficiently helpful on its own even without splitting navboxes based on brand (which has the side effect of making the navboxes take up significantly more space). The icons don't presently get pushed onto a new line which makes it a little confusing to read, but if that's on the table to fix, that would strike my only major complaint with it. Driftin Soul (talk) 17:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I hadn't thought about the new length potentially being an issue, good point. I'm not sure how to work around that, my understanding is the majority of gear-focused players tend to gravity towards the brand mechanics of the game rather than any other aspect that could be used as a categorization system.
Here's a rough around the edges demo where all of S3's headgear is in one chunk, sorted alphabetically; it's still decently long, but perhaps more manageable in that department? I think it looks a bit too plain and somewhat messy without a categorization system. Not sure what other approach can be taken... Yoshifan52 (talk) 20:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Would it be possible to, within the infobox, collapse by default all brands that the page does not belong to? That's one possible solution that comes to mind.
Having it split by starting letter (again, non-applicable letters collapsed) could be a similar approach. Driftin Soul (talk) 20:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not sure it would be possible to automate that (and setting it up manually would be unnecessarily messy and complex)... Yoshifan52 (talk) 20:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hmm... yeah, if it can't be automated that's definitely a big strike against it. Would definitely also result in some weird edge cases with gear that changed brands (and/or names) between games. Driftin Soul (talk) 21:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your demo is really nice!!! I love the gear organized one better tho, is the best option imo. We should think really hard and see which one comes out on top! The alphebetical one is nice, but I don't know. Looks kinda like BLUHHHERESEVERYSINGLEHEADGEARRIGHTINFRONTOFYOUIF YOUWANNAFINDSOMETHINGYOUGOTTALOOKTHROUGHITALLBLUUH Not really very optimal, right? It's not bad, just not the best. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk) 21:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Trig's sent me this demo as an alternative with the perspective of a player who doesn't care much for gear/brands. I think this format handles the length issue while making it read better; what do you think? I still like my by-brand categorization but I'm not sure it's the most practical. Yoshifan52 (talk) 00:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh I like that
Solves my issues with the gear names/icons ending up on different lines if nothing else, which helps readability a lot. Driftin Soul (talk) 00:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Apologies for the huge delay; I've updated my demo to match the formatting system Trig sent. I've added per-brand navboxes as well: the idea is a piece of gear's page would list both types of navbox. For example, the page for Barrelfish Baseball Hat would feature a navbox for all S3 headgear, as well as a navbox for all S3 Skalop gear. This might get a bit busy in cases where a single piece of gear has been in all three games thus far, but overall seems to be the best possible option for per-brand navboxes. Let me know what you think! Yoshifan52 (talk) 04:08, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wow… this is absolutely incredible!!! Must've took some hard work to take the current format and rework it per game and category, then do it again for gear brand and game! Some of the spacings are a bit awkward, but I'm on mobile so that might be it? Still looks amazing! It's wonderful! I hope everyone else thinks the same. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk) 21:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I find it difficult to find particular gear in the current navboxes. I usually use the lists (like this one List of headgear in Splatoon 3) instead. I prefer the variation with icons. I think the icons make it much easier to find items. The weapon navboxes also have icons, so including icons in the gear navboxes will make them more similar.  GX_64 (talk)  00:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I certainly support using icons, they greatly improve navigation because users are much more likely to remember a piece of gear based on its appearance than its name. Honestly I am neutral on how to split them, star power is least useful but does split in a neat way, brand is most useful but makes the nav incredibly long, and no split at all is a neat compromise but I think it's a little weird having a nav with zero split. But if there's no need for a split then, well it doesn't need one. So I essentially support all three, yeah not very helpful I know. - Harristic (talk) 00:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Having every gear icon load on every gear page may bloat up the pages considerably. I think this is one of the reasons the weapon pages are so heavy on load time. Is there another method that could be used to make things easier to find without adding images? Heddy (talk) 00:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Heddy is right, would significantly increase load time, because there is a lot, and I mean A LOT more gear than there are weapons. I'm not sure how to tackle this, because Harristic is right. I remember something better off of appearance than name, because if I saw it on say, a Reddit post, I wouldn't know the name. I'd come to Inkipedia and look at the images to find it! Maybe if we could somehow compress the file or something similar, to be able to handle it better and not make 10 minute load times. I don't know if that is possible, but yeah. To sum it up, make the images easier to present, so it doesn't slow the website down. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk) 01:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What are we going to do about Hong Kong and South Korea?

Latest comment: 12 February3 comments2 people in discussion

As the title says, what are we going to do about Hong Kong and South Korea for the Splatfest navboxes (the previous and next template)? For reference, during region-locked Splatfests, North America, Europe, and Japan all have their separate navboxes, however, Hong Kong and South Korea do not. Are they going to get their own, separate navbox on Splatoon 3's region-locked Splatfest pages, or are they going to be combined with one of the already existing ones?

I asked this before here, but it was ignored. -Random 19:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

From what I have been told by other editors, it is currently impossible for HK and SK to have their own set Splatfest; their theme & results always have to be combined with one of the other three regions. As such, I don't think we have to be concerned about it unless something changes in the future to allow unique themes & results. Driftin Soul (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright. -Random 20:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How do I put pictures from my photo gallery onto my page?

Latest comment: 18 March3 comments3 people in discussion

This is probably the stupidest question ever, but I need help. I use Inkipedia from my phone, and I was trying to create my user page, but I couldn't find anything for importing a photo from my phone's gallery. Is there any way to do that or do I have to do something crazy like download it? Sandy&Altie (talk) 15:34, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To upload an image, you need to go to the File Upload page. Before you upload an image, read the image guidelines and the file template information provided at the top of the page so you know the wiki's policies about uploading files! Keep in mind, users can have at most 7 personal images for their userpages. To display the image on your userpage, you would write [[File:Your file's name.jpg|50px]] You can increase the image's size on your page by entering a bigger number before the px, I used 50 as an example. If you do increase the size make sure the image doesn't go off the side of the page. Hope this helps!! Odd (Talk) 16:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
if u are getting the pics from ur switch u have to click share then click send to smartphone Faulty chair (talk) 12:07, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Salmon Run "Tips" sections

Latest comment: 11 May3 comments2 people in discussion

So it's been bothering me for a while, the Tips sections on Salmon Run related pages are not great. They have to be miles long to cover all relevant info (For example: Rush), they don't separate info between games, they actively recommend mediocre to bad strategies (wall clinging on Rush), they gloss over Snatcher optimization, etc... I want to fix them, but for the pages to be actually helpful and as extensive as I think they should be, they would most likely need to be separate from the regular pages to keep it organized.

Something related to this was brought up in the discord and StrategyWiki was mentioned, but when I asked if that's where this should really go I didn't get a reply; I've been told that StrategyWiki mainly focuses on singleplayer or games with linear levels so I'm not sure if Salmon Run would fit there in the first place. I had the thought of making competitive-like pages for it since Big Run and Eggstra Work are in-game competitive events, but I don't think that's the intended use for the namespace. But surely we could figure something out?

The main reason I want to do something about this is that Salmon Run has been my favorite part of Splatoon since S2, but in general it has no central resource for information. Most is spread across youtube videos, discord servers, and google docs linked through either of those, which is extremely inaccessible. I know Salmon Run isn't nearly as popular as the PvP, but it's still a full game mode and if we're going to have gameplay advice for it at all I think we should have it more organized than it is now. I'm not even necessarily advocating for overfishing strategies to be covered since I know that community is pretty niche.

To summarize: The Salmon Run pages' Tips sections are annoying to read at best and unhelpful at worst. I would like to make proper strategy pages somewhere, but I don't know if that's something others believe would belong on Inkipedia specifically. Hoping to start a discussion here. Sourguppyworm (talk) 22:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Maybe you could make a sub section of inkipedia that foucuses only on grizzco related things. that way it gets eaiser to navagate. i would help, but i dont know much code. i can give ideas tho Squidkid34 (talk) 12:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for your reply! That's kind of close to what I was thinking of, as I mentioned I thought we could do something similar to the Competitive namespace. But there doesn't seem to have been any interest in it since I posted this last month, so I've just been working on my own offsite guide instead 😅... Sourguppyworm (talk) 02:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Trivia section

Latest comment: 8 April2 comments2 people in discussion

I've noticed that a lot of the trivia sections for some pages say tidbits but don't specify in which game it comes from, such as Flounder Heights mentioning the ghost in one of the apartments, but it doesn't specify that it's only in Splatoon 3. Another good example is the Hero Suit page mentioning Agent 3, but once again, does not say which Agent 3. Should we add subsections or a note in those kinds of entries? Rozelia The Octo06 (talk) 22:22, 7 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The game which the trivia is from should be mentioned. The way that the game is specified is slightly inconsistent across different pages, but it seems to be either mentioning which game it's from in the trivia item (like some of the trivia here Cuttlefish#Trivia), or split into different sections for each game (like these pages Agent 3 (Splatoon)#Trivia, Judd#Trivia). The different sections seem to be used when there is a larger amount of trivia.  GX_64 (talk)  05:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Coloring color chip template

Latest comment: 12 April1 comment1 person in discussion

is it possible to color the color chip template? I tried to link color it, but it's not working. This kinda applies to other templates w text. Squidcat (talk) 13:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pretendo

Latest comment: 17 April3 comments2 people in discussion

Now that Nintendo Network has been discontinued, should we make a page documenting the Splatoon side of Pretendo? They have now released a hackless way of connecting to thier servers and it runs just like Nintendo Network. Thanks, CodingAsteroid (talk) 12:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As it is not an officially-endorsed service (with some legal dubiousness), I would advise against it: It is not what the developers had intended in an official capacity, and I really don't want to seem like Inkipedia is supporting or endorsing the product because that could turn around and hurt us. Unless something notable happens like the scheduled rotations not working as anticipated, I think mention of the service at all should be zero to minimal. Trig - 13:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok. Thanks for the feedback! CodingAsteroid (talk) 07:12, 17 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Improving mobile layout for Navbox

Latest comment: 3 May2 comments1 person in discussion

The existing Navbox layout is horizontal, due to section headings being placed on the left. This makes them not work very well on mobile devices, which has narrow screens on portrait mode. I am testing a modification to the Navbox layout for mobile view: by moving the section headings to the top of each sections, the layout becomes more mobile-friendly. The desktop layout stays the same as the current one.

You can preview this on User:Harimaron/Sandbox#Navbox. The mobile layout will only activate if the viewport is narrow enough, so you can test it by viewing it on mobile or by reducing the width of your web browser window. I would appreciate any comments. Harimaron (talk) 16:41, 14 April 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have applied this change which should now be in effect for all Navboxes. Harimaron (talk) 14:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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