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<p class="textwidget">Welcome to the '''Ink Pump'''. Similar to Wikipedia's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump Village Pump], the Ink Pump serves as a general place for the Inkipedia community to discuss the wiki as a whole, whether it be ideas, proposals, technical issues, or notices.<br /><br />
Remember to put new discussion sections at the ''bottom'' of the page.<br />
You may also wish to view ''[http://splatoonwiki.org/w/index.php?namespace=1&tagfilter=&title=Special%3ARecentChanges recent talk page discussions]''.<br />
Archives available [[/Archives|here]].
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== Automatically resetting the stage timer ==
The stage countdown timer on the front page currently requires you to reload the page every time the timer runs out. Perhaps we could fix this by putting the timer in an iframe, and then calling document.location.reload() when the timer runs out. --[[User:Xenon|Xenon]] ([[User talk:Xenon|talk]]) 21:20, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
:There's no need for that, a function can be written so the timer resets when it runs out. I do it if you want. [[User:AbelToy|AbelToy]] ([[User talk:AbelToy|talk]]) 10:11, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
::If either of you want to give it a go and post results here, that would help a lot :) - [[User:Kjhf|Kjhf]] ([[User_talk:Kjhf|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kjhf|Contribs]]) 10:43, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Did it. You can see it here in action: https://jsfiddle.net/tsenazgw/7/ - in order to use it, copy the Javascript code (the text below) into Common.js, and the HTML code (the text above) wherever you want to use the countdown. This countdown is specific for the stages, and will countdown to the next stage change automatically without needing to refresh it. [[User:AbelToy|AbelToy]] ([[User talk:AbelToy|talk]]) 12:43, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Templates Way Too Big! ==
 
I think the templates' box size is way too big. How 'bout resizing it?
 
--marikdff 02:38, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:I agree - did you have in specific ones in mind? Either way, they should definitely be shorter in height. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 03:18, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
For example, the Deletion Template: http://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Template:Delete
There is some space at the top and bottom. How about like this? http://www.mariowiki.com/Template:Tobedeleted
Oh and you could probably put a squid ghost that appears after they get inked at the right. --marikdff 03:29, 10 June 2015 (UTC)marikdff
==Clean up Ink pump==
The this is/was an excellent idea, but it is getting a bit large. Perhaps every  couple of weeks an admin should clean up old, irrelevant discussions. Seeing them is nice, but gets a bit tedious when looking for new stuff. [[User:Einstien74|Einstien74]] ([[User talk:Einstien74|talk]]) 03:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:Was planning on doing this soon-ish. Do we want to leave discussions up for, say, seven days before archiving? <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 03:39, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
::Sounds good to me. you're the admins [[User:Einstien74|Einstien74]] ([[User talk:Einstien74|talk]]) 05:29, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Sounds good here. I suggest you start with a hub page at [[Inkipedia:Ink Pump/Archive]] and archive under [[Inkipedia:Ink Pump/Archive/1]] or something similar, maybe with a date stamp. [[User:Kjhf|Kjhf]] ([[User_talk:Kjhf|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kjhf|Contribs]]) 10:42, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
::I say we archive stuff based on size, not so much time. For time, we'd have to keep track of when everything was posted. For size it's a lot easier. Stuff like "do we have 30 sections? Let's archive the oldest 25."  &ndash; '''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>''' 12:35, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Maybe a mixed idea.  At the worst, all sections with no replies in ten days can be archived until there are only five sections left.  A section with one reply could be in fifteen, two in twenty-five, etc.  Or at least something like that.  --[[User:SgvSth|SgvSth]] ([[User talk:SgvSth|talk]]) 01:12, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Page was getting long, so I went ahead and created [[Inkipedia:Ink Pump/Archives]], and archived the first 25 discussions to [[Inkipedia:Ink Pump/Archives/1]]. I randomly set the default number of discussions per page to 25, but that can be changed. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 03:48, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Speed Runs==
The speed running community for Splatoon is already speeding ahead with interesting strats.  I'm wanting to do a page on runs/strats/times but don't know where to put it - [[User:Pyrii|Pyrii]] ([[User talk:Pyrii|talk]]) 05:23, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:I assume Speed Runs of [[:Category:missions|missions]] and tips for multiplayer [[:Category:stages|stages]] will go in their respective pages. If there's something specific to speed runs such as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun TAS] then perhaps make a separate article for that. - [[User:Kjhf|Kjhf]] ([[User_talk:Kjhf|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kjhf|Contribs]]) 10:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
::Sharding information which might seem useful seems counter-productive. Especially since strats used for speedruns won't neccessarily be used for normal playthroughs. There's also the need for a specific article to mention types of speedruns and current times or where to find them. (Currently [http://www.speedrun.com/Splatoon speedrun.com]) - [[User:Pyrii|Pyrii]] ([[User talk:Pyrii|talk]]) 18:30, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Splatoon OST==
Reddit user [http://www.reddit.com/user/yocowthegreat yocowthegreat] ripped the entire Splatoon OST from the Squid Beatz minigame (unlocked with Amiibo challenges). [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGxMS6aFE8D52OJKsQrvi251NFD9O-VhM Here's] the YouTube playlist. "Music" page? Is there a way to embed YouTube videos? [http://gaf210.imvustylez.net/codes/generators/youtube-player-lang-eng This] website generates embedded player codes. If there is, maybe we could use the "Button + Volume" player type for the music page? --[[User:NefariousSquid|NefariousSquid]] ([[User talk:NefariousSquid|talk]]) 06:36, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
:The uploader has disallowed embedding - [[User:Pyrii|Pyrii]] ([[User talk:Pyrii|talk]]) 16:12, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
::Maybe we could link to the videos? ~''I shall splat thee!''~ [[User:KamuiKagerou77|<span style="color:DarkViolet"> KamuiKagerou77 </span>]](~[[User talk:KamuiKagerou77|<span style="color:ForestGreen">discussion</span>]]~) 23:58, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Maintenance Page==
I created a [[Inkipedia:Maintenance|maintenance page]] as a hub of links useful for ongoing maintenance or not knowing what to do. -[[User:Kjhf|Kjhf]] ([[User_talk:Kjhf|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kjhf|Contribs]]) 10:45, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Some images==
A reddit user made [http://www.reddit.com/r/splatoon/comments/39iqs8/decided_to_make_an_album_of_all_the_art_from_the/ an album with a lot of images]. We can use those on the wiki, if they aren't already here.  &ndash; '''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>''' 13:11, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
: I ''think'' we have most/all of those already. We're displaying some of them on the [[Main Page]] ;) [[:File:CallieArt.png]] - {{User:Kjhf/Sig}} 13:53, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== The old Wikia site ==
I added this on ShrimpPin's talk page too, but just in case he doesn't see it, I'll post it here too:
The edits to the main page on the old Wikia site, telling viewers to come here instead, seem to have been reverted. We should fix that! (Or even better, delete the entire site if possible?) The old site always shows up in google rather than Inkipedia. :( Thanks! --[[User:Eli|Eli]] ([[User talk:Eli|talk]]) 11:33, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Audio player==
I'm uploading compressed music from Splatoon. Admins, are you able to add a .ogg audio player extension to Inkipedia? --[[User:NefariousSquid|NefariousSquid]] ([[User talk:NefariousSquid|talk]]) 16:05, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
:Admins can't add extensions but [[User:Prod|Prod]] can. Will prod him for you. I created a [[music]] page in response to this idea previously.
: {{User:Kjhf/Sig}} 16:30, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
::This extension seems to have a lot of annoying dependencies.  It'll take some time to get it working. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] ([[User talk:Prod|talk]]) 18:24, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Links==
Is it possible to make a word link to a spot on the wiki without the word saying what page I want it to go to, like on the old Wiki site? (Ex. if something says "Blaster" and I want it to got to the blaster category page and not the ''Blaster'' weapon page and I don't want it to say [[:Category:Blaster]] like on the ''weapons list'' page) --[[User:Jer455|Jer455]] ([[User talk:Jer455|talk]]) 08:52, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
:Of course. <nowiki>[[Blaster]]</nowiki> will result in [[Blaster]]. <nowiki>[[Blaster|ZOMG NEW WEAPON]]</nowiki> will create [[Blaster|ZOMG NEW WEAPON]]  &ndash; '''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>''' 09:08, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
::It's the same markup as the old wiki site. In this case, <nowiki>[[:Category:Blaster|Blaster]]</nowiki> results in [[:Category:Blaster|Blaster]]. {{User:Kjhf/Sig}} 11:33, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Basics==
Hold on, is there any page with basic game info/mechanics? (What button does what? When does my ink refill and when won't it? What does the sensitivity slider actually adjust?) --[[User:Tyroney|Tyroney]] ([[User talk:Tyroney|talk]]) 17:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
:I did just find [[Options]], but that's only part.--[[User:Tyroney|Tyroney]] ([[User talk:Tyroney|talk]])
 
== Naming and Template Conventions ==
 
While putting together [[Template:Ability]], I had to jump through a very ugly hoop because there's no consistent naming convention on the Ability icons. A similar situation exists with all of the Gear imagery. I used some conditional evaluations like this:
 
<nowiki>[[File:
{{#ifeq: "{{{1}}}" | "Damage Up" | DamageUpIcon.png | }}
{{#ifeq: "{{{1}}}" | "Opening Gambit" | Openinggambit.png | }}
...
|{{{1}}}]]</nowiki>
 
But let's say for a moment that all the Ability icon names followed the format of <code>'''Ability'''_''Name''.png</code> so that, in this example, we'd be working with Ability_Damage_Up.png and Ability_Opening_Gambit.png. That being the case, since MediaWiki treats spaces and underscores the same in filenames, the 24-lines-of-conditional-code block can be condensed down to a single line:
 
<nowiki>[[File:Ability_{{{1}}}.png|{{{1}}}]]</nowiki>
 
That's a heck of a lot nicer, right? This is one reason naming conventions are important. This would also vastly simplify the markup of [[List of gear in Splatoon]], since image filenames could be derived from the Gear name. (Also, that "Gear" oughtta be capitalized in the article title, but that's a different battle altogether.)
 
I noticed something similar happened with the brand templates. I suggested something along the lines of <code><nowiki>{{Brand|</nowiki>''Name''<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>, which would allow for things like <code><nowiki>{{Brand|Zink}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{Brand|Skalop}}</nowiki></code>. What wound up getting implemented instead are nigh-identical templates for every brand, resulting in markup like <code><nowiki>{{Zink}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{Skalop}}</nowiki></code>. This is a problem for two reasons: 1) it unnecessarily bloats our template namespace (though that's largely a matter of taste), and 2) if any changes are desired, they have to be made to ''every'' brand template instead of just the one.
 
It's not my intention to barge into the wiki and start calling the shots, but I do want this wiki to be the best it can be, and right now I'm seeing some things going in a direction that I don't think is best.
 
--[[User:GuyPerfect|GuyPerfect]] ([[User talk:GuyPerfect|talk]]) 12:26, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 
: I'm inclined to agree on your points: we really should have consistent names for templates and images. Yes and yes.
: However, the template usage, I don't agree so much because of four reasons:
:1. Editors are more likely to type what they mean.
:: Editors would not only have to know that the brands template exists but they also would have to look it up for its usage, for example is it <nowiki>{{brands|Skalop}} or {{brand|Skalop}} or maybe even {{brand|brand=Skalop}}</nowiki>?
:: It's much more intuitive to have {{t|Skalop}}.
:2. The template code, though wasteful, is much more manageable and easy to edit by anyone.
:: For a violation of this, take a look at the switching template [[Template:Navbar|Navbar]].
:3. Redirects only work to whole templates, not ones that switch on parameters.
:: This means <nowiki>{{Brand|Skalop}} could redirect to {{Skalop}}</nowiki> but not the other way around.
:4. We discussed button templates before and decided {{t|ZR}} and the like is better than say <nowiki>{{button|ZR}}</nowiki>
:You raise a very good point on consistency of file names. It was my intention to copy-paste code for each template to be as identical as possible. When we can do that, we can make a template for all the templates and then only change that one when needed. Wasteful? You decide.
: We don't have a style guide for this yet, it would be great if the commnity decides on this one.
:{{User:Kjhf/Sig}} 14:54, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 
::There, I just modified [[User:GuyPerfect/Sandbox]] to use some templates instead of hand-coding everything. Check the source markup--naming conventions made it easy! While I was working on that, I made an edit to [[Template:Ability]] to add the ''icononly'' parameter. While I ultimately opted to include the text in the Ability column, the fact remains that I was able to add the option for all 24 Abilities without going through and modifying 24 templates... So I'm really gonna have to stand by my earlier recommendation of using things like <code><nowiki>{{Ability|Swim Speed Up}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{Brand|Krak-On}}</nowiki></code> over things like <code><nowiki>{{Swim Speed Up}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{Krak-On}}</nowiki></code>, respectively.
::It also occurred to me while setting up my sample table that ambiguity could severely cripple the naming convention of templates if, in my specific example, something like <code><nowiki>{{amiibo}}</nowiki></code> continues to be used. That template currently renders the amiibo ''brand'', but there's no reason it couldn't also be meant to refer to something like the type of merchandise or the nature of unlockable content. Splitting it up as <code><nowiki>{{Brand|amiibo}}</nowiki></code>, <code><nowiki>{{Merch|amiibo}}</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>{{DLC|amiibo}}</nowiki></code> would bypass that problem altogether. One alternative is to modify the offending templates on a case-by-case basis, such as <code><nowiki>{{amiibo|brand}}</nowiki></code>, but doing that suddenly breaks all content referencing the first template that happened to come along. Another might be to add new templates such as <code><nowiki>{{amiiboMerch}}</nowiki></code>, but then that potentially sacrifices consistency with other templates depending on the order they were implemented. If we can establish a convention at this point that sort of future-proofs this kind of problem (and we can), I really think that's an avenue we should go down.
::On the topic of requiring editors to be familiar with the templates, that's how it is on every other wiki I've visited. What I can say from experience is that when I'm new on a wiki and want to be consistent with existing content, I just look at the existing content to see what it does. It took me a few edits on Bulbapedia before I realized that I was supposed to say <code><nowiki>{{p|Mew}}</nowiki></code> instead of <code><nowiki>[[Mew (Pokémon)|Mew]]</nowiki></code>. We can easily educate new users with a simple style guide and list of common wiki-specific templates.
::--[[User:GuyPerfect|GuyPerfect]] ([[User talk:GuyPerfect|talk]]) 17:37, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:::I agree that naming conventions would definitely help to streamline future template possibilities and I would be in favor of establishing some guidelines over at [[Inkipedia:Policy]] (specifically at the to-be-written [[Inkipedia:Policy/Image_Guidelines]]). Of course, that's something to talk to the [[Inkipedia:Administrators|Admins]] about. I'm also in agreement that we should try to limit our template count (e.g. <code><nowiki>{{Brand|Krak-On}}</nowiki></code> vs <code><nowiki>{{Krak-On}}</nowiki></code>), although I think that we need to be sure to include the proper use and documentation notes before implementation, otherwise it makes it even harder for new users to use (or if needed, modify) the more complex templates. --[[user:Sunmarsh|sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 00:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Story details?==
I think there should be a place where history, lore, and all spoiler-y Hero Mode details should go. Should we make a page called "Story" or "History?" Also, I feel like there should be a conjectural name for the Inklings' planet. When talking about the [[Great Turf War]] and rising sea levels, the entire planet should be discussed, and not just one city, Inkopolis. Should we make a page called "Earth," because the planet technically is Earth? Feedback is appreciated!
- <span style="background-color:darkgreen; border:8px ridge lightgreen;">'''[[User:ShrimpPin|<span style="color:white;">Shrimp</span>]][[User talk:ShrimpPin|<span style="color:black;">Pin</span>]]'''</span> 13:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
:I was just thinking about something of the sort for Pikipedia. We have a page with the policy on the canon content, but it'd be best to have one about the policy, and one that explains the canon. Long story short, I'm putting this idea on the table: consider a page that describes what is canon and what is not. Perhaps combine it with or make it a sister of a page that describes the lore. Either way, if it doesn't go that deep, I say the story be put on the actual game's article.  &ndash; '''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>''' 08:16, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Policy pages ==
We've got at least four new policy pages made in the last 24 hours.
 
[[User:Kjhf|Kjhf]] has done a great job creating the following pages (shoutout to him!), which should be reviewed by editors. Feel free to make comments for changes or suggestions on talk pages (I've already done so for the blocking policy):
* [[Inkipedia:Policy/Signatures]] ([[Inkipedia talk:Policy/Signatures|talk]])
* [[Inkipedia:Policy/Blocking]] ([[Inkipedia talk:Policy/Blocking|talk]])
* [[Inkipedia:Policy/Rights]] ([[Inkipedia talk:Policy/Rights|talk]])
 
We've also had a few rumors and leaks going around the 'net about Splatoon. We do need to have a firm policy on how we cover these, which was discussed a bit on our Skype chat. I've drafted one together, so do also  review it and comment if you have any thoughts: [[Inkipedia:Policy/Rumors and leaks]] ([[Inkipedia talk:Policy/Rumors and leaks|talk]]).
 
Thanks! <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 03:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Leaked Information==
New never-before-seen pictures and information that is on the Splatoon game disc were leaked. I was wondering if we could possibly add some of the pictures and information to some of the pages and put a thing at the top of a page or seciton (like if the page/section is a stub-type thing) if it deals with rumors or things that havent been revealed yet, or even make an entire page for rumors about possible new stages and weapons that haven't been confirmed yet. You can find the leaked pictures and information ([https://twitter.com/NWPlayer123/status/612690533945716736 Here]) and ([https://twitter.com/NWPlayer123/status/612705080156925952 Here]). --[[User:Jer455|Jer455]] ([[User talk:Jer455|talk]]) 06:14, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
:I was asking the same thing yesterday- unfortunately, this would violate Nintendo's copyright laws and that's something we really don't want to do. Even though Gamexplain and basically every other news source are covering the leaked content, we can't legally do it until is is officially confirmed by Nintendo. We probably wouldn't get in trouble, but it's just a good idea in general to stay within the law. - <span style="background-color:darkgreen; border:8px ridge lightgreen;">'''[[User:ShrimpPin|<span style="color:white;">Shrimp</span>]][[User talk:ShrimpPin|<span style="color:black;">Pin</span>]]'''</span> 13:17, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
::Splatoon of America [https://twitter.com/splatoonna did retweet] info about the leak, and I remember someone in the chat mentioning it has since been confirmed - I take this as being acceptable at this point? <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 13:48, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Kinda weird that they'd retweet it. But in this case, yes. I think it makes sense to add it. Oh, I'd recommend saving the tweet as well. I have a feeling it'll be removed soon enough...  &ndash; '''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>''' 16:41, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
::::<nowiki>*facepalm*</nowiki> I just realized it's a fan account. Nevermind on that, then. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 16:43, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
: According to the (new) [[Inkipedia:Policy/Rumors and leaks|leaks policy]] as it stands, leaks can be covered. But the discussion/problem we have is how the leaks are obtained. If it's done illegally (datamining) then Inkipedia might be accused of hacking. This is what the policy is aiming to protect: obviously we want to keep the wiki in good standing. That said, if we can write about the leaks by only using external references so as to not be portrayed as the people who did the leaking/hacking, then I can't see anything wrong with that. It would be akin to journalists being tried for the stories they report upon. {{User:Kjhf/Sig}} 17:25, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
::From the context of being respectful to Nintendo's wishes (meaning they can announce things on their own timetable), I feel we should still refrain from going into particular detail for information dug up through unauthorized means. For instance, I'm all for covering that information was discovered, but I really don't think the full details of that information (like all the weapons, details on Rainmaker, etc.) belong on this wiki. Someone can look it up if they want, but I don't want Inkipedia to be the source of spoilers or what-not. --[[User:GuyPerfect|GuyPerfect]] ([[User talk:GuyPerfect|talk]]) 17:29, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
:::I like this idea, and I think it's a fair one. Cover the fact that the leaks occurred, and what type of content was leaked, but avoid actually posting what was leaks (weapon details, images, etc.). <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 17:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Inkfest? ==
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what is Inkfest? {{unsigned|NefariousSquid}}
:Answer is right here: [[Inkipedia:Inkfest]]. Please remember to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.  &ndash; '''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>''' 10:27, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Brand on weapon infobox? ==
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it true that each weapon has a brand? If so, I think it'd make sense to add the brand to the infobox.  &ndash; '''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>''' 10:27, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me - I'd support adding it, either as another normal field, or beneath the title in the infobox in smaller text. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 16:30, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Main Page's Character Button ==
I dislike how the main page's button for the character page is a stub. On every other wiki I checked they had their category buttons redirect to category pages (Nookipedia, FE Wiki, Golden Sun Wiki, etc). As this is the case I'd like to change it to this as well; however I need more feedback. Thank you. [[User:Aegis|Aegis]] ([[User talk:Aegis|talk]]) 11:13, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
:I like the category idea - normally we wouldn't like to categories on articles, but in this case we're linking people to a directory to find the content they want. Alternatively, we could create Portals, but until we do categories sounds good to me. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 12:29, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
::Previously the main page did link to categories, but we changed it; I think it looks more professional to link to a page than a category. Maybe for characters it is a good idea because theres not much to say. Honestly, though, I think it would be better to link to stages rather than characters. [[User:NepetaLast|NepetaLast]] ([[User talk:NepetaLast|talk]])
:::An easy way to fix it would be to add, on the Character article, a section with a list of species (and a brief introduction on each one), and a section with a list of characters, linking to the articles.  &ndash; '''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>''' 18:29, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Repetitive gallery images ==
On many articles, I'll see images repeated in both the infobox and the article's gallery. It makes more sense to me to have the gallery contain images that don't already appear elsewhere in the article, but I want to know if anyone disagrees and thinks they should be a "catch all" for all images, regardless if they've already appeared in the article. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 12:31, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
:Agreed. It's a bit dumb when you go to the gallery to see more images, only to see repeats of what came before. I think we can look at this from an objective standpoint: there are users that read the content (even if they just skim through), and in doing so, check the images in the page. I do this a lot on Wikipedia when I can't be bothered to read the whole thing. Then there are users that are there for the images, and jump straight to the gallery. Obviously, having repeats in the gallery would benefit this second group, but... I think I can safely say that that second group is in the minority. So to please the majority, and to have the pages slightly less bloated, I vote for no repeats in galleries.  &ndash; '''[[User:Espyo|Espyo]]<sup>[[User talk:Espyo|T]]</sup>''' 15:47, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
::Well said - and for users looking for all the pictures relating to a topic, they can look toward gallery subpages (e.g. [[Splat Roller/Gallery]]). <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 16:29, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I agree with this. There's really no reason to have repeat image. [[User:Thesquidsisters|Thesquidsisters]] ([[User talk:Thesquidsisters|talk]]) 18:22, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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