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Gameplay videos for Octo Expansion and Return of the Mammalians levels?

I noticed that Splatoon 1 Octo Valley stages have gameplay footage and I was wondering if it should be added to the Octo Expansion and Return of the Mammalians stages too. I just wanted to inquire just in case there was a specific reason that none of them have gameplay. TheYoshiGang (talk) 18:51, 17 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I wondered that too. I asked about it, and Anemoia said,"This might be more suited for Strategy Wiki (walkthroughs are currently being ported there). Unless you mean something completely different." I replied,"Just wondering because some of the Splatoon 1 stages have gameplay videos." They then said,"If you'd like you can help by moving those to the aforementioned wiki. Here on Trig's page is a quick explanation of how it works. You can cut walkthroughs from Inkipedia pages and paste them on the appropriate Strategy pages. If the Inkipedia pages only have gameplay videos and no written walkthroughs, well... you can write them yourself if you feel like it." Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 15:11, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you, I will try writing some strategies on those pages. I mainly wanted to know because it seemed odd. What about weapon demonstration videos? Are they staying? TheYoshiGang (talk) 16:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I hope so. I would make them, but I lack an online membership. Just so you are aware, Inkipedia says that StrategyWiki has pages for Return Of The Mammilians, but they actually don't. The only two that are there were made by me lol. (There is a third incomplete one, that me and Trig worked on.) Just so yknow, you would have a lot of work to do if you wanna complete it. But if you really want to, go right ahead! StrategyWiki does need those pages. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 17:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That does sound interesting, in a few months I will most likely have more chances to work on Inkipedia, so I could probably work on StrategyWiki too, since I am very passionate about Splatoon. TheYoshiGang (talk) 17:51, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Me too! I am super passionate about the game! You should check out my user page! Stay Fresh NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 18:07, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Btw, if you wanna add weapon demonstrations,(assuming you can access the lobby) You should probably ask whoever is in charge of weapon demonstrations how to do one, like what to show off, because, if you've seen the S1 and S2 ones, you know that there are a list of things they must show off in a specific order. (Like how in S2, they would view the weapon 360, then shoot in front of them until they have no more ink, then attack the dummy etc.) Now fr, Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 17:38, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How did the datamines for Drizzle Season 2023 got never taken down?

I didn't want to datamine, but the users added a bit of datamines but never got taken any action. Why did this never happen? Is it good to add content hours before it releases? KPOfficial26 (talk) 01:26, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Simply put, not everything manages to get caught. We have editors who try to keep an eye out but sometimes things still slip through the gaps. In future, if you notice leaked content being documented you are more than welcome to revert and/or add deletion notices as necessary, as well as contact the users breaking policy to inform or remind them of said policy. It's not solely something patrollers and admins are in charge of. Hope this helps! Driftin Soul (talk) 01:45, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Skin is glitched to default Timeless

I accidentally did something that caused the custom Timeless skin to delete on my end. Can you show me how to fix it? KPOfficial26 (talk) 12:49, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I got it back to normal by following the directions on the Timeless page. Thank you for the information. KPOfficial26 (talk) 12:59, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Big Run Bug

I scored 140 in a big run, but got a bronze decoration, has anyone else had this bug? Wind Waker Link.jpg S2 Weapon Main Hero Shot Lv. 3.png (talk) 03:55, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, Nintendo has acknowledged the bug and is working on fixing it. S3 Badge Nautilus 47 5.pngFancyRatCredits - Inkling Boy Eating Popsicle.png 04:00, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It is a known bug, yes, and there is a patch on the way sometime soon. Driftin Soul (talk) 04:00, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So I confirmed that many others on Reddit had this problem as well, I'll contact Big N tomorrow Wind Waker Link.jpg S2 Weapon Main Hero Shot Lv. 3.png (talk) 04:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You really don't need to, as me and FancyRat said there has already been an upcoming patch announced by Nintendo. Driftin Soul (talk) 05:19, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I actually added my Reddit comment before yours and Rats loaded in my computer, so I ended up not doing it.
Thanks though Wind Waker Link.jpg S2 Weapon Main Hero Shot Lv. 3.png (talk) 21:56, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Splatfest event categories

I noticed a lot of Splatfest event pages were uncategorized so I was moving a bunch of them to Category:Splatfest events when another user (thanks Randomnamehere :D) brought up a good point - should they instead be categorized under the subcategories Category:Splatoon Splatfest events, Category:Splatoon 2 Splatfest events, and Category:Splatoon 3 Splatfest events? This is how Category:Splatfest Top 100 listings organizes its articles which I agree makes more sense rather than throwing them all onto the same category page. Not sure if mods have access to mass-editing tools to automatically tag them which might be easier than doing it manually. Lucs100 (talk) 16:50, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I also think it makes more sense to use the subcategories. I have also noticed that some Splatfest pages are in both Category:Splatfest events and the subcategory. I think this is unnecessary, they should be removed from Category:Splatfest events, since they are already in the subcategory.  GX_64 (talk)  01:02, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A lot of pages are in the main categories rather than the respective sub categories. But, that's not how they're supposed to be sorted as far as i'm aware. -Random 15:13, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Regarding School Cardigan's gender (referred gender)

Is it safe to simply use 'they/them' pronouns for School Cardigan? Or should we use 'he/him' or 'she/her'? How should the team be referred to?

I posted this on Talk:List of Splatoon manga characters but it was ignored so I re-posted it here. -Random 16:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

just use they/them Sol (talk) 17:38, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Many music files have errors

about the music files , about half of them come up with errors. Any guidelines on how I might be able to fix this? Thx Sol (talk) 17:36, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you are on an Apple device, it's because Apple doesn't support OGG Arceusgjengen (talk) 17:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I noticed in the source some of the files are mp3s instead of OGG - would it be feasible to convert all the OGGs to Mp3s? I don't mind doing it if anyone knows how I can change the files over, im happy to re-record etc. I mean, a lot of people use Apple devices, so it might be a beneficial change Sol (talk) 17:43, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think there was talk of shortening all music files and turning them to .mp3 format for copyright reasons. I can look into this if you're interested. (If you're on the Inkipedia Discord server, it might make things easier, although this isn't required.) Anemoia Anemoia Sig.png [Talk!] 18:26, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I really hope we don't have to shorten them, cuz this is how I listen to Sploon music at school, cuz SoundCloud is blocked. (Can't use YouTube) I don't know why we have to shorten them, Nintendo hasn't seemed to care, but Nintendo can be L sometimes and take it down. Don't know how they would take it down or how they would sue us but I'm not trying to find out fr. I wonder if there is some way around this… whatever tho. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 18:36, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't think we have to shorten them. I'd still like to convert them to mp3 though. Sol (talk) 18:45, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I personally don't own any Apple devices, so I might be wrong, but wouldn't simply using a different browser or media player with Ogg support fix this issue? Shdwdogg0 (talk) 23:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm also not certain if that's an option, but regardless I think we should aim for the greatest compatibility we can across all devices and browsers, especially since Safari is the Apple default and as far as I'm aware is widely used by Apple users. Driftin Soul (talk) 23:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If nobody is against the idea, I'd certainly be willing to re-rip all the Ogg files on the music page as MP3s. Shdwdogg0 (talk) 00:29, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's something that's come up as part of the wider audio discussion and as far as I recall no one has been against it! If you want to at least get a start on it I think that'd be great, but feel free to make a new topic if you want to more formally gauge interest! Driftin Soul (talk) 00:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh really!!! That would explain why most of the music says error for me too ;-; only a few won't, I never knew why but now I do! Thanks for clearing that up! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 18:11, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok I've successfully converted over the first entry in the music page, boot screen, to mp3. It should work now and is 1 minute long. Looks like it will be a long process but at least I know how to do it. Go and check out for yourself if you want. Sol (talk) 18:55, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok! Thanks a lot! I know this will take a long time, so thanks for volunteering! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 11:53, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I actually had a question... how do you get to the page for the file? I see the music file, but I can't get to the page, where I can replace it, view it, and just do stuff with it. Could you tell me how to get there? Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 13:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Open the source code and scroll through and you can see the file names they're pretty obvious. So you can go to that page and either replace the file there or you can edit the source code and make a new file page and then link that in there , and delete the old page. Second one is more organised but if u need just replace on the page Sol (talk) 17:21, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Huh. Ok. Thanks for telling me!!! Stay Fresh, cephlokid! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 17:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Collectively responding: This was something I had integrated into my failed proposal as a project. Long story short, no, ogg should not be directly converted to mp3 as that would introduce a second level of compression that would significantly impact quality (negatively). Captures of audio (unless already vorbis at which point it is as high quality as it gets) should be re-encoded from the source files to MP3 to preserve as much quality as reasonably possible. I'm willing to create a project for this with specific instructions of how to engage in this process (with specific software) but only if there is a genuine interest from the community to complete. Trig - 00:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm definitely willing to help. I have pretty much all of the in-game audio files ripped to MP3s already, I'd just need to properly name and upload everything. Shdwdogg0 (talk) 01:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Noice. NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 14:02, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's great, I'll be willing to help too when I have more spare time Sol (talk) 00:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I made a few guidelines for the project as well as a guide on how to rip the audio files. Any suggestions are welcome. User:Shdwdogg0/Sandbox#Music_ripping_guide Shdwdogg0 (talk) 23:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nice! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 02:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

RotM Rocket Liftoff music

You know when Grizz says, "Fellow employees, we appreciate your valued feedback. However, it will not be implemented at this time."? And then that funny american music starts? Yeah, that's nowhere in the music area! Can someone try and find a version without Grizz talking, the rocket person talking, or the rocket blasting away? Really will come in handy! Pixil-824 (talk) 21:46, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I there is one here. You can download it from there and add it to the wiki. It's near the end, and it's called "Takeoff!" Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 23:47, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Removed link, please do not promote piracy. If people need any game's files, they shall look for them on their own. Anemoia Anemoia Sig.png [Talk!] 02:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh I didn't know that was piracy. I'm not sure tho, it said Unofficial Wiki Soundtrack, suggesting that the music may have come from us. Not sure, but sorry if I was promoting piracy! I just use that often for music if I want to download it, and thought that they just took the files from the wiki! Not sure how that's piracy, but I'm not trying to find out lol. Stay Fresh! (Btw, hope you find the music you were looking for! Maybe scavenging in the game files would help? Not sure if you have the stuff for that tho, Stay Fresh as well!) NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 12:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That stinks. So no Takeoff music? Pixil-824 (talk) 13:05, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wait, I took my SD card from my Switch, looked in S3's files, found the song, and renamed it. Is that piracy? It's the file in game. Pixil-824 (talk) 13:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not really sure, but good thing you found it! I didn't realize that if the game was on the SD card that you could just, view it. I'm dumb sometimes lol. I suppose we could ask Anemoia or another staff member, they probably know. Good job finding it! Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 13:19, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Gonna see if I can add it now! Splat ya later! (Also found the full version of Bear with Me! Add that too?) Pixil-824 (talk) 13:23, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Don't feel like Bear With Me is necessary, but yeah! Feel free to add the takeoff! Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 13:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I just think that people WON'T wanna download alla them and merge them on their own. But, despite it being a .mp3, it's [the file download area] saying it doesn't support .mpga. We may have to scrap it. Pixil-824 (talk) 13:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Maybe use a converter website? I use CloudConvert. There isn't a mpga option, so maybe search around and see if you can find one! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 14:00, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As soon as I saw your comment, it went out successfully. Mr. Grizz Showdown.mp3 is the name of it. Gonna add it to the music page now :P Pixil-824 (talk) 14:02, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
LOL. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 14:03, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hold on… the one you uploaded is Bear With Me, not the takeoff! Not sure if that was on purpose or? Just letting you know NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 14:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I know. I just knew that it would be easier to find the category for Bear with Me instead of the takeoff. But the takeoff is next, and I found the category! Splatcha later! Pixil-824 (talk) 14:10, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright. NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 14:21, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All systems running! Go to the music tab to access the Full "Bear with Me" and Rocket liftoff tracks! Music Pixil-824 (talk) 21:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fresh! Funny how this started from a question about it. Good job adding it! Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 21:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Now it's all fully finished! Probably gonna add some manga things. Splatcha later! Pixil-824 (talk) 13:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright! I love the manga! Staaaaaaay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 14:20, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gear template overhaul proposal

  • Right now, Template:GearAbilityAndBrandInfo in each gear page is a paragraph, which to some can be hard to read. I'd like to split it into some bullet points.
    • Here's a Genshin Impact armor set description and its fanmade simplified description, for comparison.
  • I suggest merging info in Template:GearIntroText (where to get, price, can be ordered, etc.) to GearAbilityAndBrandInfo. Might as well rename the latter if that happens.

Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 14:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Double quotes versus single quotes

Many Etymology sections feature something like this: "Cephaloparade is a portmanteau of 'cephalopod', the class of animals including squids and octopuses, and 'parade'" (single quotes are used in this example). I've noticed inconsistency on whether double quotes or single quotes are used, and I don't know if there is an accepted standard we should use, and, if not, which of these should be used to keep pages looking neat and consistent. Walrus OE Icon Sanitized Octoling.png(talk)OE Icon Deepsea Metro.png 08:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I did some looking into it, and double quotes are technically more standard in formal American English (which we generally try to adhere to as per the manual of style). I don't think it's of urgent concern to have consistency across all pages (especially since that would be a huge undertaking) but as long as it's consistent within individual pages I think that's the most important thing! Driftin Soul (talk) 22:34, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright, thank you so much! Walrus OE Icon Sanitized Octoling.png(talk)OE Icon Deepsea Metro.png 06:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pikan glitching

Pikan (the "check for problems") gadget is glitched. It used to highlight the problem in the text and jump to it, now it doesn't. it makes it kinda hard to locate what the issue is. can someone look into it please? ^^ RotM Icon Frye.png Squidcat (talk) 22:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I was able to partly fix it by changing my preferences to one of the older styles (or at least that seemed to somewhat help), but it is still struggling to work. I will note that is does seem to still highlight the problem, so if the text you can currently see and edit has a problem, then it can be highlighted by going through each problem individually. --SgvSth (talk) 10:35, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Squidcat @SgvSth The problem seems to be that you can't have two highlighting features enabled simultaneously. If you want Pikan to be able to highlight text, you must first turn off "Syntax highlighting" in the editor toolbar. It's the button that looks like a marker. Heddy (talk) 10:51, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ah, so there was a way to disable that without changing styles. I will switch back from Vector legacy (2010), but it still is struggling without the syntax highlighting for some reason that I cannot determine. --SgvSth (talk) 01:37, 5 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
How exactly is it struggling? It seems to work smoothly for me, but I keep Pikan disabled all the time, and I only enabled it to check on the mentioned glitch. If there is an issue that can't be resolved by disabling the syntax highlighting and using the supported themes, Timeless or Vector, then I would suggest contacting Espyo, the author of Pikan. Heddy (talk) 07:08, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Editor's Note in Competitive Weapon Pages

Hello! I've had this nagging issue with the editor's note in the "Gear Abilities" section of most competitive weapon pages. The premise of the note just feels kind of informal and redundant in a way, as one can probably assume that the gear abilities are being provided for a competitive standpoint.


I'll add what is says here (with a bonus sentence that irks me):

"This is a guide to gear abilities in relation to the weapon. Strategy, synergy, viability, and purpose may be written here. Editor note: This guide is for all abilities, to avoid conflict and to be more useful for everyone. Please do not remove any ability that was added. You may add reasoning for why other abilities are more strategically desirable. If an opinion is questionable, discuss its content on the talk page. If you believe that an ability is particularly good, it would be best if you added a citation to support your opinion. Citations to Top 500 or tournament winning players are best."


I see this repetitively (and admittedly have deleted it a few times), but I want to consult before fully removing it. Would it be a bad idea to completely remove this portion. I'm not much of a wordsmith, but I hope you can get what I'm saying. Thanks, everyone! S3 Tableturf Battle card Toni Kensa.pngℂ𝕝𝕒𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕥.𝕠𝕔𝕥𝕠 S3 Tableturf Battle card Annaki.png (ℙ𝕣𝕒𝕥𝕥𝕝𝕖) 18:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't see what's wrong with it? It's basically just saying to not go removing other editors' contributions without discussion simply because you disagree with them, which is certainly an important thing to keep in mind for the Competitive namespace since it's quite heavily opinion-based to start with. It even provides an idea for how editors can be slightly more objective by citing performance-based sources. Strongly in favor of keeping it, personally. Driftin Soul (talk) 20:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I think that it is implied to not edit other people's edits in a harassing manner. This isn't a manual on how to edit, which would be expected on a guide but not a formal page. It says "you" many times, which was my main issue. All of the things addressed seem like common sense, which is what I was getting at.
S3 Tableturf Battle card Toni Kensa.pngℂ𝕝𝕒𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕥.𝕠𝕔𝕥𝕠 S3 Tableturf Battle card Annaki.png (ℙ𝕣𝕒𝕥𝕥𝕝𝕖) 22:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's not about harassment, though? It's establishing that the Competitive namespace is very different and overall less objective and factual than the wiki mainspace, meaning that contributions need to be evaluated by different criteria. Furthermore, appealing to 'common sense' is something that sounds good in theory, but doesn't always work in practice. For experienced editors many of these things may be obvious, it's true, but not everyone who wants to contribute is an experienced editor.
As far as the use of 'you'... it's fine? This is a note that's only visible in the source editor; it doesn't need to stand up to the same conventions as actual page content, as anyone who isn't editing will never see it. Driftin Soul (talk) 22:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You're right! I just realized that it's only visible to those who are editing. I still find it unnecessary to be in place, but it's less of an issue now that you mention it! I'm so sorry for wasting your time lol. Have a good one. S3 Tableturf Battle card Toni Kensa.pngℂ𝕝𝕒𝕣𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕥.𝕠𝕔𝕥𝕠 S3 Tableturf Battle card Annaki.png (ℙ𝕣𝕒𝕥𝕥𝕝𝕖) 18:15, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Favicon for Wikipedia

Wikipedia is used as a source in some articles, so would it be a good idea to make it a favicon template for references? RotM Icon Frye.png Squidcat (talk) 02:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As far as I'm aware most instances of linking to Wikipedia is done as part of larger blocks of text, and use of inline icons is generally frowned upon. If there are some instances of freestanding links to Wikipedia articles though, it could be worth doing. Driftin Soul (talk) 03:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
in the bottom feeders and hightide era articles there's references to wikipedia. i'll have to check more to find more examples but those are the ones i've came across so far. RotM Icon Frye.png Squidcat (talk) 03:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It seems like a good idea because we use Wikipedia links fairly often, and it's nice to easily see that a link goes to Wikipedia, but I personally want to avoid a slippery slope towards having icons littered everywhere. Where do we draw the line? Is someone going to ask for Facebook favicons or FANDOM favicons next?
Inkipedia editors are currently using icon templates for links to Twitter and YouTube and Nintendo's official website. However, the only links to automatically have the icon appear (via Inkipedia's CSS) are NIWA wikis. This creates three "tiers" of websites:
  1. The CSS tier - Links automatically have an icon, even inline in paragraphs. Achieved via CSS. Websites here are considered important, such as our NIWA partnership.
  2. The template tier - Links have an icon if the editor adds the associated icon template. Editors often use the icon template in reference sections, and in file source sections.
  3. The no-icon tier - Random websites, which are mostly used in the references section with the website name or URL visible anyways; adding their icons to Inkipedia is not practical or necessary.
Wikipedia is present in Inkipedia's interwiki table, and used quite often in Inkipedia articles. Our links to Wikipedia normally use the Wikipedia article's name as the link text, so people have no idea it's a Wikipedia link until they follow the link. So, I suggest that we promote it from the no-icon tier, to the CSS tier. What does everyone think?
Heddy (talk) 01:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'd be tentatively in favor of such a change, although I still don't quite understand why it's considered acceptable to have inline icons (not just for other websites, but in general) some times but not others. If it's just simply somewhat arbitrary, though, I can accept that. Driftin Soul (talk) 01:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Firmly against. I already do not like our css tier links and the template ones are so inconsistently used that I don't think they are helpful. Honestly I would rather swing the other way and *remove* all of the css favicons in links. A major help to this would be my developing External Links template, which would use explicit icons anyway, but for inline references I do not think anything more than the "external site" icon is needed. Trig - 04:31, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see. The tentative nature of my approval was based on the idea that we were of a fairly consistent mind on how to handle this subject, even if it was somewhat arbitrary, but if we have a diametric disagreement like this I think we need to take it upon ourselves to discuss this in much greater detail beyond just the topic of a Wikipedia icon. Driftin Soul (talk) 14:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What do you not like about the CSS link icons? They are currently only used for NIWA wikis, which are also interwiki links. Interwiki links do not have the external link icon.
The external links template seems like it would help for some articles, but there are probably not many situations where an Inkipedia article would have a single equivalent Wikipedia article in the external links section. For example, Splatfest articles like Boke vs. Tsukkomi have Wikipedia links in the Details section to explain what a Boke is and what a Tsukkomi is, and in that case it would help readers to have an icon for both links. Is there any situation where a Wikipedia icon next to a Wikipedia link would be unhelpful? Heddy (talk) 01:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Light Bomber Jacket

Around fall 2023 I saw the light bomber jacket in splatnet 3, but when I ordered it, I accidentally cancelled it. With no proof, or the day I found it. I haven't found anything on other people finding this piece of gear. EruditeEllipsis (talk) 18:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Are you sure you didn't mistake it for a different piece of gear that looks similar? If no one else has ever found it then it likely wasn't the light bomber jacket. OrderSquid38 New Squid.jpg OrderSquid38 [Talk] 18:57, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm sure that is was the light bomber, but most likely it could've been removed or smth. EruditeEllipsis (talk) 21:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Shibuya Tower Records Concept Art

Back in December I found an article from 2018 showcasing concepts from Splatoon, Splatoon 2 and Octo Expansion at the Shibuya Tower Records exhibit. I don't know if anyone has recorded this yet or if it's been already covered but I felt it was Important. There is also a Nintendo Life article linked with more concept art.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-07-16/witness-the-evolution-of-splatoon-art-at-shibuya-tower-records-exhibit/.134276

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/07/gallery_splatoon_2_super_mario_and_nintendo_switch_take_over_a_balmy_tokyo


EruditeEllipsis (talk) 18:54, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I also found an article that stated there was a live performance of Inkoming.
https://www.jtyaku.net/wet-floor-shibuya-tower-records/ EruditeEllipsis (talk) 19:00, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello! I was working on a page for the Tower Records collaborations a while back, but it's been stuck as a draft. We do have merchandise photos from the collaborations, but not much info on the events themselves. Any information on the collaborations are helpful. Thanks! S3 Badge Nautilus 47 5.pngFancyRatCredits - Inkling Boy Eating Popsicle.png 20:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not sure if this will be much help information-wise, but there is an unofficial digital preservation of the 2018 art exhibit. Maybe it'll be good for describing what could be seen at the exhibit? Cackle Cackle Team Aliens head icon.png (talk) 22:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I remember hearing about that in one of Rassicas's videos! I never knew where it was, but it will most likely be very important to the research. EruditeEllipsis (talk) 00:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Twitter social media page got fixed

With a lot of tinkering, I found that the Main Page/Social Twitter feature is back up and running! I think it's a good time to add it to the main page again. KPOfficial26 (talk) 01:22, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to delete account?

Hi, I don't think anyone remembers me, I was a user a lot time ago and I don't feel I fit anymore :( It was great back those days but I got through a lot of changes in me and my personality, and somehow Splatoon stopped being my number one game. I don't think I have both the skills and the time to edit Inkipedia, it changed a lot since the last time I logged in!

Anyways, my time here was over a long time ago and it's time to give a last goodbye, Bye guys :) -Platelet (I don't have the twirly symbol in my new Mac srrry) Platelet✨(talk👌🏻) 04:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's not possible to delete an Inkipedia account. In lieu of deleting it, you may ask an administrator to block your account to ensure no more edits will be made on it. Please note this should only be done after careful consideration as it won't be reversed unless a very good reason is given. To be frank there's no reason to deactivate an account; it's completely fine to simply never edit again on an account, no need to shut it down in any way. Maybe in 5 years you'll spot a typo on the wiki and will want to correct it! There's no expectations or "editing quota" that you're missing the mark on. Yoshifan52 (talk) 07:03, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yeah, I guess you're right, now that I think about it, Side Order still hypes me up, I don't think I'll be as active as before, but I'll try to fix what I can (PD: I found the symbol) Platelet✨(talk👌🏻) 23:24, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Noooooooooooooooooo that's so unfortunate. Hope you have a good rest of life ;-; Stay Fresh and have a ridiculously awesome day ;-; NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 11:24, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Gear navbox renovations

The current gear navboxes sort the gear per initial rarity/star count/star power; I find this sorting system isn't very useful and it's overall difficult to imagine even a very gear-focused player preferring to sort by star power of all things. I've prepared a demonstration of gear navboxes in which gear is sorted by brand instead, and would like to propose these as a potential replacement for the current ones. I've also included a variation where per-gear icons are present; I imagine most players do not have most gear pieces' names committed to memory thus icons can help with navigation, though there may be concerns with article loading times as a result of adding a lot of icons.

As this would be a rather large scale change affecting nearly the entire wiki, I'm eager to hear others' input on the topic. Yoshifan52 (talk) 08:00, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would like more feedback from gear-focused players but in my opinion it seems like a fair change Olivia (talk) 09:17, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I really really like this idea! Whenever I look for gear through the navbox, it's always difficult because I don't even know what star power is to begin with. I do however, know and love the brands, so this change would help me tremendously. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 11:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Having per-gear icons definitely seems very good, I think that would be sufficiently helpful on its own even without splitting navboxes based on brand (which has the side effect of making the navboxes take up significantly more space). The icons don't presently get pushed onto a new line which makes it a little confusing to read, but if that's on the table to fix, that would strike my only major complaint with it. Driftin Soul (talk) 17:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I hadn't thought about the new length potentially being an issue, good point. I'm not sure how to work around that, my understanding is the majority of gear-focused players tend to gravity towards the brand mechanics of the game rather than any other aspect that could be used as a categorization system.
Here's a rough around the edges demo where all of S3's headgear is in one chunk, sorted alphabetically; it's still decently long, but perhaps more manageable in that department? I think it looks a bit too plain and somewhat messy without a categorization system. Not sure what other approach can be taken... Yoshifan52 (talk) 20:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Would it be possible to, within the infobox, collapse by default all brands that the page does not belong to? That's one possible solution that comes to mind.
Having it split by starting letter (again, non-applicable letters collapsed) could be a similar approach. Driftin Soul (talk) 20:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm not sure it would be possible to automate that (and setting it up manually would be unnecessarily messy and complex)... Yoshifan52 (talk) 20:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hmm... yeah, if it can't be automated that's definitely a big strike against it. Would definitely also result in some weird edge cases with gear that changed brands (and/or names) between games. Driftin Soul (talk) 21:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your demo is really nice!!! I love the gear organized one better tho, is the best option imo. We should think really hard and see which one comes out on top! The alphebetical one is nice, but I don't know. Looks kinda like BLUHHHERESEVERYSINGLEHEADGEARRIGHTINFRONTOFYOUIF YOUWANNAFINDSOMETHINGYOUGOTTALOOKTHROUGHITALLBLUUH Not really very optimal, right? It's not bad, just not the best. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 21:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Trig's sent me this demo as an alternative with the perspective of a player who doesn't care much for gear/brands. I think this format handles the length issue while making it read better; what do you think? I still like my by-brand categorization but I'm not sure it's the most practical. Yoshifan52 (talk) 00:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh I like that
Solves my issues with the gear names/icons ending up on different lines if nothing else, which helps readability a lot. Driftin Soul (talk) 00:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I find it difficult to find particular gear in the current navboxes. I usually use the lists (like this one List of headgear in Splatoon 3) instead. I prefer the variation with icons. I think the icons make it much easier to find items. The weapon navboxes also have icons, so including icons in the gear navboxes will make them more similar.  GX_64 (talk)  00:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I certainly support using icons, they greatly improve navigation because users are much more likely to remember a piece of gear based on its appearance than its name. Honestly I am neutral on how to split them, star power is least useful but does split in a neat way, brand is most useful but makes the nav incredibly long, and no split at all is a neat compromise but I think it's a little weird having a nav with zero split. But if there's no need for a split then, well it doesn't need one. So I essentially support all three, yeah not very helpful I know. - Harristic (talk) 00:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Having every gear icon load on every gear page may bloat up the pages considerably. I think this is one of the reasons the weapon pages are so heavy on load time. Is there another method that could be used to make things easier to find without adding images? Heddy (talk) 00:38, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Heddy is right, would significantly increase load time, because there is a lot, and I mean A LOT more gear than there are weapons. I'm not sure how to tackle this, because Harristic is right. I remember something better off of appearance than name, because if I saw it on say, a Reddit post, I wouldn't know the name. I'd come to Inkipedia and look at the images to find it! Maybe if we could somehow compress the file or something similar, to be able to handle it better and not make 10 minute load times. I don't know if that is possible, but yeah. To sum it up, make the images easier to present, so it doesn't slow the website down. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 01:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What are we going to do about Hong Kong and South Korea?

As the title says, what are we going to do about Hong Kong and South Korea for the Splatfest navboxes (the previous and next template)? For reference, during region-locked Splatfests, North America, Europe, and Japan all have their separate navboxes, however, Hong Kong and South Korea do not. Are they going to get their own, separate navbox on Splatoon 3's region-locked Splatfest pages, or are they going to be combined with one of the already existing ones?

I asked this before here, but it was ignored. -Random 19:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

From what I have been told by other editors, it is currently impossible for HK and SK to have their own set Splatfest; their theme & results always have to be combined with one of the other three regions. As such, I don't think we have to be concerned about it unless something changes in the future to allow unique themes & results. Driftin Soul (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Alright. -Random 20:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Side Order stuff to do...

Though Side Order just released, we got some urgent stuff to do...

- Update Off the Hook (Marina's role)

- Create page for Order (Complete!)

- Add the Pearl Drone's emotes/dances once completing floors in her gallery

- Add music on Music page

- Replica gear after completing mode

- Languages on Order Dualie Replicas (Unfinished but dealt with.)

- And more!

That's all I can think of for now. In the meantime, Splatcha later! -pixil (talk) 13:23, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks a lot Pixil! This will help us get started and stay organized for Side Order. Just a note tho, I'm not sure the Ink Pump is the place for this. Maybe on the Side Order page? Just a thought tho. Once again, thanks for the list. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 14:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oops. Just thought it would be more noticed here and kinda deals with the page. I'll take it though! Splatcha later! -pixil (talk!) 20:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hey, I think we should add a small trivia section in the Color chip page regarding that selecting color chips in the X Palette menu plays musical sound effects (note that they can be played with the touch screen) and in the Color-Chip Collection menu plays a clip with sounds accompanying the demonstration image. Not really sure how to explain it the best, but if you have the DLC, check it out so you know I'm not lying. Rozelia The Octo06 (talk) 08:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh I know you're not lying, pretty sure I saw that on YouTube. you should add it! It is trivia after all! Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 12:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sure! I got the DLC. I could take small videos and convert them. Not sure how to extract game files, though. Splatcha later! -pixil (talk!) 17:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cool detail

Side order stuff here. I saw when doing a lucky-chip playthrough, I got a little charm on my ink-tank, and didn't get any visual weapon changes. Could visual player upgrades (charm, weapon digital-things, antenna, etc) be connected to chip upgrades? idk if this has been added yet, so oops if it has. DudeFortitude (talk) 01:17, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I haven't seen anything on it, but this is something that I'm interested in documenting, since there are many other visual changes to the player in Side Order. Wave (talk) 15:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
List of visual player upgrades I have found: (Not sure if there are more/which chips they are connected to)
- Charm on ink tank
- Weapon digital things
- animation on ink tank
- antenna
- visor DudeFortitude (talk) 01:01, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I dunno if they're linked to upgrades. I know I've seen these changes on vending machine floors. Anemoia Anemoia Sig.png [Talk!] 01:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry i meant visual changes, not upgrades DudeFortitude (talk) 01:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There is also boot flash-things
Also, an easy way to notice these is when they appear thru the geometry when u enter a level! DudeFortitude (talk) 01:02, 2 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New Song Lyrics Format

I've created a table to present idol song lyrics within in my sandbox. Due to the work that was put into the current system used in Big Betrayal, it was decidedly necessary to start a discussion about it. Some of the pros of switching to a table include:

  • Character icons make it much easier to distinguish who's singing from the white background (especially poor Frye)
  • It's easier to separate and thus tell who's singing which lines
  • Tables look nicer than the bare lyrics
  • No need for a legend at the top

I'd like to know your thoughts and suggestions! (Take note: I've already considered the option to add a notes column for repeating lines or other necessities.) ArgentuTA164 (talk) 05:27, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is a positive change that I would support, as I've already seen it in action in your sandbox. This would be a big project if implemented sitewide, but I'd be willing to help a lot, as I know all of the series music. Wave (talk) 15:39, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
On board with this. I recommend making demonstrations of the new format exactly as you'd like to add them to the related song articles, so people can more definitively discuss the change. Yoshifan52 (talk) 18:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've fixed up the lyric table for Color Pulse on my userpage (at User:ArgentuTA164#Color_Pulse_by_Off_the_Hook). Let me know if there's an issue! ArgentuTA164 (talk) 03:29, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Missing Side Order Music

I've noticed that while all Side Order music found in the Jukebox has been added to the music page, there's a few songs that only show up in the actual game that are missing. For example, the songs that play on the results screen when you lose/win a run, the song that plays in the post-game Foyer, the "song" that plays in the area outside the Spire of Order, the different songs that play in the elevator as you reach higher floors (after clearing the tutorial). Feel free to reply with any others I didn't mention, and what the policy is for adding music that isn't in the Jukebox. Treewad (talk) 03:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Our Splatoon 1 info is on borrowed time!

All Inkipedians! This is important! At this point, you should be aware, we have exactly 33 days before Splatoon's online service gets destroyed. It may not be a lot, but if we can work hard and diligently, this may not be a problem, and we can finish! I have a page regarding this, but before it goes main or something similar to be posted on the notification board, I would like the community to look it over. Any problems or complications, let me know! Before this goes out, it should be the best it can be. I want to make sure it is good , empowering, and helpful for the wiki before it gets posted out for others to see. You can look over it here. If there is anything you dislike, or think should be edited, feel free to edit it, and let me know what you changed. Please and thank you in advance. We must do this ASAP, because Splatoon is on borrowed time. Stay Fresh, and have a ridiculously awesome day! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 18:25, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't think there is any cause for alarm. All Splatoon 1 content has been documented, with the exception of the Splatoon 1 competitive page content, which could use some work to show the historical competitive opinions for each weapon, but that info can be added even when the game goes offline. There will be emulators and unofficial ways to play the game, and there are years worth of YouTube videos where people provided competitive opinions for the game. Heddy (talk) 06:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh hi Heddy! I know this may not sound like a cause for alarm, but we can’t just push things back just because they may or may not be in danger. This should still be one of our top priorities either way. I really care about this wiki, way too much, but it seems like everyone else is just ignoring this massive problem. Yes it is true that videos do exist, but how much good would they do? I feel like if we can shift our attention to this, we may get some work done. That’s just me, but once again, I really care about this wiki. Stay Fresh! NewSquidbeakSplatoon (talk)S3 Tableturf Battle card The Eel Deal - Frye.png 13:43, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Respectfully, you're using a lot of flowery, exciting language but not listing any substantial exact tasks or projects that people can directly contribute towards. We don't need to be hyped up, we need a list of what to do; our Splatoon writeups are in great shape at this time. Please make a precise list of what you think is missing or should be improved for us to discuss working on. Nobody is ignoring the shutdown; whenever brought up, editors have jumped at the opportunity to help out when told exactly what is needed, rather than the vague "c'mon everyone! let's do this! we love this wiki!" without substance on what exactly there is to do.
Recently editors have been taking missing/retaking old in-game screenshots and clips. Presently we're missing screenshots of the message that pops up whenever you're splatted with each means of splatting the player (individual main/sub/special weapons, stage hazards etc.). I recommend you either start a proper list of things to do and coordinate it though our projects system, or trust that thus far a lot of diligent editors are handling S1 coverage improvement very shortly after individual tasks are brought up. Yoshifan52 (talk) 21:52, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi. I'm new here, and I glossed over this while looking for some info about making pages and I thought I'd give my two cents to anyone who cares to listen, even if it doesn't mean very much from a new guy. Even if there is still some information we don't end up getting before the shutdown of the Splatoon online servers, there's still other means of getting the information. It just means we have to dig a little deeper. Maybe we don't even have to dig deeper, as there's some dedicated fans out there working on making new servers for Wii U and 3DS online including Splatoon servers. As for what needs documenting, I have no idea and I don't have a Wii U, but I'd be glad to help where I can. Just thought I'd add what I could to the conversation, even if it isn't really much to consider. Bassie (talk) 01:23, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This is a wiki made up of a lot of people that do have access to the original Splatoon, so let's stick to definite, actionable lists. It's true it will likely be possible to obtain missing info after the shut down via private servers, which is something staff has been discussing lately. Yoshifan52 (talk) 02:00, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Move release history to end for all story mode pages?

This wiki currently has release history as the first section for all of the story mode pages. Would it not make more sense to have Plot or Story be first? Release history could go above gallery Jory (talk) 16:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Although I personally understand your perspective of the plot being more relevant for a reader, this isn't how it's done, well... anywhere. From wikipedia, which format this wiki takes, to literally everything else, from essays to Power Point presentations of various importance. You always have a history/origin/etc section of a topic first before moving to the actual topic, which makes sense chronologically. And, well, if the history section bugs you as a reader too much, that's why every page has clickable shortcuts right at the start :D signature Milchik (talk) 17:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What? We might be misunderstanding. Look at the Splatoon page (or any other) from og wikipedia. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splatoon, or https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splatoon_(video_game)
yes the release date is listed early, (the box to the right). But inkapedia currently gives a summary, then the release history of the trailers and advertising, THEN the detailed story description. Most wikis list the trailers and such in a Release type section as that information isn't as sought out Jory (talk) 17:52, 14 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah, sorry then, I misunderstood your point. Then I don't know, that's up to the admins to decide. If they decide to consider your point, I think it may go through a proposal and voting. signature Milchik (talk) 07:05, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I added the release history section to our Side Order and Octo Expansion pages; the plan is to move the lengthy trailer descriptions elsewhere (to a dedicated list of official trailers articles) as they're exceptionally lengthy and mess with the flow of the article (this is especially the case for the SO article). Once that's cleaned up the sections should overall work much better.
Right now the "release history" section is separate from "development"; the former covers official news regarding releases and major updates per announcements made for the general playerbase while the latter covers official news and unofficial research on the behind the scenes game development that's typically not fully transparent. Right now the development section is the first section following lead for our S1/S2/S3 game articles. In my opinion the release history should be at the top of the page as a quick overview of the related game/mode's availability, while the development should be further down in the page; the two should stay separate.
I find it likely readers are prioritizing checking game/mode release date info and availability especially for upcoming things, as Side Order was when I made that section. When I check for information on games the first thing I want to know is "when did it come out?" and "is it available for purchase right now? in what format?". On the OE article I moved the release date and format information from the lead section (which was cluttered and missing other info) to the dedicated "release history" section just below lead because that seemed to be the most sensible means of keeping the information prioritized. Yoshifan52 (talk) 18:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I totally agree that "when did it come out?" is valuable information, and I tend to look for it pretty early on as well. It's great to include the release date in the lead section and even better to isolate that date in the infographic-thingy on the top right of every page like the wiki does currently. I'm just thinking that the release and development information beyond the release date should be moved lower like most other wikis (usually after plot and gameplay). Now that the DLC has been released, I think the average reader will be looking for canon plot information (i.e. why did I fight Marina on my first climb, again?) before they're looking for the influencers who got to play the game pre-release.
Idrc how it's organized, but y'all might benefit from a 'Promotions' or 'Advertising' section rather than including promo materials as development. Either way, I think you're right that moving the list of official trailers will improve the flow. Jory (talk) 19:20, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Isolating release dates to exclusively page infoboxes is not ideal, especially when it comes to topics that require elaboration and/or general documentation (as is typically the case with game or mode releases).
Further documentation on promos and ads is definitely needed, but I stand by my opinion that the release history section works best as close to lead as possible, and becomes messy to include in lead directly. Yoshifan52 (talk) 19:28, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Should internal names really be acquired through the localization/language files? (aka that one Github page from Leanny used as a reference for most internal names)

I accidentally made this topic on the main page's talk page a couple days ago, but no one replied, so I'll try again on the correct talk page this time.

Anyways, the reason I'm asking about this is because the names presented in localization file entries aren't consistent with the internal names within the rest of the games' filesystems. For example, Callie's actual internal name should be Npc_IdolA rather than Aori, propellers should be Obj_Propeller00 for horizontal propellers and Obj_Propeller01 for vertical propellers rather than Msn_CourseObj_12 and Msn_CourseObj_22, Inkfurlers should be Obj_Blowouts, etc.

Also, I just feel like the names used for models and actor files are more fitting to use instead of the names of localization file entries in general. However, stages and weapons are perfectly fine. impostor (talk) 16:27, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There are multiple internal names per subject. I'm working on a new internal names template that will allow for listing more than one internal name at a time. Yoshifan52 (talk) 18:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah, sounds cool! Hope to see it finished soon! impostor (talk) 12:46, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Documenting Physics Engines

Hi. Before anyone says it, I know that this is something that will probably never see the light of day. However, as it's likely one of the most integral parts of the games, should we try to work on documenting the physics engines used by Nintendo to make these? I know they probably use a lot of in-house super top secret stuff, but I feel like we should scrounge up what we can and make it look all nice and fancy. Bassie (talk) 21:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Regarding the relevance of weapon appearance sections

I know I'm new here so I don't get much say in the matter, and I know a lot of people have worked really hard on these... but are they really needed? All due respect to everyone who's been working on them, but I feel that they kind of overcomplicate pages and defeat the purpose of the weapon image which is one of the first things you see when you open the page. Again, I mean no disrespect whatsoever, and I know I don't have much say in the matter. Bassie (talk) 21:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Appearance sections serve multiple purposes including documenting the inspirations of weapons, any "moving part" aspects to it, small details that may not be immediately obvious, changes in design between games, etc. Please consider them an accompaniment to the infobox image(s) rather than an attempt to supplant them or reinvent the proverbial wheel :) S3 Icon Headspace.png Driftin Soul [Talk!] 22:21, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
While I do believe that documenting these things are important, I still feel that other sections could be utilized to cover them without overcomplicating things. For example, the trivia section including inspirations for weapons and the gallery showcasing any "moving parts" through gifs and images. Some pages already do this, as well, such as the Splattershot trivia section discussing the inspiration for the weapon's appearance. Bassie (talk) 22:48, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
On second thought, I realize that the appearance sections probably make things simpler for readers by presenting this information in a neat and informative format instead of forcing readers to sift through an entire page and gallery to find small pieces of information. Especially with the positioning of the section near the top of the page. Sorry! Bassie (talk) 22:51, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No worries! On the topic of having info in trivia, our goal is also to generally shuffle that sort of info to existing or new sections elsewhere on the page unless there is nowhere else it could reasonably go, but it's an ongoing process and unfortunately not all of our editors are always familiar with our policies (including the trivia policy). ^^; S3 Icon Headspace.png Driftin Soul [Talk!] 23:03, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for the reassurance! I'll make sure to read up on the policies before I make any changes. Bassie (talk) 23:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How do I put pictures from my photo gallery onto my page?

This is probably the stupidest question ever, but I need help. I use Inkipedia from my phone, and I was trying to create my user page, but I couldn't find anything for importing a photo from my phone's gallery. Is there any way to do that or do I have to do something crazy like download it? Sandy&Altie (talk) 10:31, 17 March 2024 (CDT)Sandy&Altie (talk) 15:34, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To upload an image, you need to go to the File Upload page. Before you upload an image, read the image guidelines and the file template information provided at the top of the page so you know the wiki's policies about uploading files! Keep in mind, users can have at most 7 personal images for their userpages. To display the image on your userpage, you would write [[File:Your file's name.jpg|50px]] You can increase the image's size on your page by entering a bigger number before the px, I used 50 as an example. If you do increase the size make sure the image doesn't go off the side of the page. Hope this helps!! Odd S2 Splatfest Icon McNuggets.png (Talk) 16:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
if u are getting the pics from ur switch u have to click share then click send to smartphone Faulty chair (talk) 12:07, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]