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<p class="textwidget">Welcome to the '''Ink Pump'''. Similar to Wikipedia's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump Village Pump], the Ink Pump serves as a general place for the Inkipedia community to discuss the wiki as a whole, whether it be ideas, proposals, technical issues, or notices.</p>
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== What pages currently need to be created? ==
Just interested. [[User:Xertico|Xertico]] ([[User talk:Xertico|talk]]) 19:35, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Inkipedia.org ==
Just wanted to give a heads up that I've snatched inkipedia.org and redirected it to this domain (since that's the wiki's official title). Might take a day or two for the redirect to go into effect. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 06:05, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
:Awesome! Thank you for this! [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 10:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Deletion tag ==
Created [[Template:Deletion request]] a few days ago. Editors can mark a page for deletion and give a reason. Pages that have been marked for deletion appear at [[:Category:Pages pending deletion]], if any admins want to check that page periodically. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 15:28, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Which English translation is primary? ==
Several pieces of gear have different English names depending on the localization (NA vs EU/AUS). Which translation are we prioritizing? For example, if we were to make a page for a piece of gear, would we use the NA name or the EU/AUS name as the title? Do we have site statistics that will let us know which countries our primary English-speaking audience is from? --[[user:Sunmarsh|sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 20:08, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
:I second this. We need to determine a wiki-wide code of editing based on where our visitors are from. For example, I changed "colour" to "color" because of a rule on a previous wiki I worked on, but this should be decided as a community. Thoughts? -[[User:ShrimpPin|ShrimpPin]] ([[User talk:ShrimpPin|talk]]) 22:49, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
:I would say in those cases, use the NA name as the main name, and then have the EU/AUS name in parentheses in the title, description, and/or infobox. If necessary, you could have redirect pages of the EU/AUS names. -[[User:Tristan Afro|Tristan Afro]] ([[User talk:Tristan Afro|talk]]) 03:31, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 
::I would say to use American, as that's what the standard has been for pretty much all the Wiki's I've seen, I myself live in Europe though. For gear names, we can just use the UK names as redirects and mention them in the description of the item, not that big of a deal. I would like if we kept release dates of things like we have now (Japanese first instead of American) just for easier reading. [[User:PPLToast|PPLToast]] ([[User talk:PPLToast|talk]]) 19:02, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 
::Personally, I think it might be easier to list all of the names in each language in the template or in a separate section from the article [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_and_White_Versions_2#In_other_languages like so].  --[[User:SgvSth|SgvSth]] ([[User talk:SgvSth|talk]]) 20:22, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:I say use American first, as it's very likely the most popular reader base, but don't just use European/Australian names in parenthesis. If people see a name, and then another in parenthesis, they could think that means anything, like an alias, a Japanese name, an early E3 name, etc. For normal text, do it like this: "The bla bla (yadda yadda in Europe and Australia) is...". For page names, call them by their American name, and on the opening paragraph, use the example I wrote in the last sentence. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 13:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Welcome message ==
I created [[Template:Welcome message]] as a potential option for welcoming new users; it's valuable that we welcome anyone that joins and provide them with initial guidance. If anyone wants to look over it, feel free to edit it or provide suggestions. Thanks, <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 03:06, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:Looks good. This phrasing seems awkward to me to me though: "If you need help... the MediaWiki Help Contents are a good place to start." I would just say "MediaWiki:Help is a good place to start." Also I would suggest renaming the template to Template:Welcome for convenience sake. --[[user:Sunmarsh|sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 21:12, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
::Fair points, I agree: done and done. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 21:16, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:Is there any good reason as to why we should add the user's name on the first parameter, instead of letting the template use <nowiki>{{PAGEBASENAME}}</nowiki>? [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 13:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
::Nope, good catch. Should be <nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki>, which I just tried and it worked. Thanks! <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 14:04, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Oops. Yeah, that. All right, cheers. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 14:44, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== False Splatoon Prima Guide Quote ==
A lot of the weapons have quotes falsely quoted to the Splatoon Prima Guide in the description (NOT the one in the "Notes"). These quotes are actually in-game descriptions from the weapons info. I changed a few of them to look like this: http://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Splattershot (removed the "-Splatoon Prima Guide" and gave the quote it's own section). This is how I used to do them on the Splatoon Wikia. Thoughts? -[[User:Tristan Afro|Tristan Afro]] ([[User talk:Tristan Afro|talk]]) 03:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:I like the use of the quote template but I think that it's a bit much to give the quote its own section. I previewed a few edits, moving it around the page, I think it looks nice placed at the very top of the article, just after "The Splattershot is a Main Weapon in Splatoon." and before the Description section. Also I think the quote should be attributed to Sheldon. --[[user:Sunmarsh|sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 21:23, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
::That sounds pretty good. But I wouldn't attribute it to Sheldon, because it doesn't officially state it's by Sheldon's quote in the game, as well as that some of the quotes refer to him in the 3rd person; "A Splat Charger modified by Sheldon..." so I doubt that they are. -[[User:Tristan Afro|Tristan Afro]] ([[User talk:Tristan Afro|talk]]) 22:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
::Maybe just attribute it as "In-Game Quote" or "In-Game Info Quote" -[[User:Tristan Afro|Tristan Afro]] ([[User talk:Tristan Afro|talk]]) 22:41, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Ah, I think I misunderstood the origin of the quotes! ^^; In that case, I think it's just better to leave it unattributed, but I'll leave the final decision up to you. --[[user:Sunmarsh|sunmarsh]] '''<small><span style="font-variant:small-caps">([[User_talk:Sunmarsh|<span style="color:#7B7B7B">talk</span>]])</span></small>''' 00:30, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Weapon Stat Numbers ==
Where did you guys get the numbers for weapon stats? I'd like to know for newer weapons (such as the N-Zap '85). -[[User:Tristan Afro|Tristan Afro]] ([[User talk:Tristan Afro|talk]]) 18:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:You can test out weapons by uh... pressing Y, I believe? When you're on the equipment screen. You get some useful tools to measure stats with, there. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 13:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== License options ==
Hi there - could an admin add [[Template:Fairuse]] to the licensing options available when uploading a file? This should be able to be done at [[MediaWiki:Licenses]], by adding a bullet and the text <code>fairuse|Fair Use</code>. Thanks! <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 20:11, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 13:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
== Linking ==
When we link to things like Main Weapon, Shooter, Charger, etc. should we link to the page or the category? For example, [[Main Weapon]] or [[:Category:Main Weapons|Main Weapon]]?
-[[User:Tristan Afro|Tristan Afro]] ([[User talk:Tristan Afro|talk]]) 21:01, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:Article sounds like the right choice to me. Makes more sense to me to link an article to an article; it's rare (if ever) to link to a category in an article body on most wikis. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 21:04, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Table Template?==
Is there a way to make something like this a template:
{| border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" class="wikitable" style="width: 500px;"
|-
! scope="col"|[[Main Weapon|Main]]
! scope="col"|[[Special Weapon|Special]]
! scope="col"|[[Sub Weapon|Sub]]
|-
|[[Aerospray MG]]
|Inkzooka
|[[Seeker]]
|-
|[[Tentatek Splattershot]]
|Inkzooka
|[[Suction Bomb]]
|}
-[[User:Tristan Afro|Tristan Afro]] ([[User talk:Tristan Afro|talk]]) 22:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:Do you want just the header to be a template (like [[Template:ItemList]]), or the entire table? I'd also set the class of tables to "wikitable" (instead of article-table), to get that familiar wiki table layout. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 22:57, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
::Yeah just the header. Thanks. And I changed it to wikitable. -[[User:Tristan Afro|Tristan Afro]] ([[User talk:Tristan Afro|talk]]) 23:05, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
:::Yep, I'd just copy the contents of [[Template:ItemList]] to [[Template:SetList]] and change the columns accordingly. I just did the same with [[Template:AbilityList]]. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 23:08, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Info box==
 
The coding on Captain Cuttlefish's info box is incorrect, thus the info doesn't show up. Can anyone tell me how to fix this (or fix it themselves)? --[[User:Nougatbat|Nougatbat]] ([[User talk:Nougatbat|talk]]) 22:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
: Did not mean to save it like it is, but basically some of the parameters are from the wikia template.  I added the parameters based on the template, so the only issue is the 'location' parameter at the moment.  --[[User:SgvSth|SgvSth]] ([[User talk:SgvSth|talk]]) 23:31, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Multilingual Glossary==
Hi,
I’ve made a template for a multilingual glossary since I’d like to know how items, characters or everything are called in each region. Here is an example:
{{User:Zeeksphere/translations
|en-US=Cap’n Cuttlefish
|ja=アタリメ司令 ''Atarime shirei''
}}
<small>(Also example [[User:Zeeksphere/templatetest|here]])</small>
 
So all you need is call the template
<nowiki>{{User:Zeeksphere/translations ... }}</nowiki>
and add simple definition lines inside, like:
|en-US=Cap’n Cuttlefish
|ja=アタリメ司令 ''Atarime shirei''
and you’ll get tables as above (undefined rows not to be shown). I don’t know how many localized versions there are; is it sufficient or are there any missing language-region?  ([[User talk:Zeeksphere|talk]]) 08:56, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:Nice! I'm not quite sure on the languages either, but I can say that there is no (European) Portuguese translation. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 12:58, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
:Looks good! I'd go ahead and move it to the Template space ([[Template:Translations]] or something like that) if you think it's ready. <b>~<i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#07517C">Super</font>]]</i>[[User:SuperHamster|<font color="#6FA23B">Hamster</font>]]</b> <small>[[User talk:SuperHamster|Talk]]</small> 13:30, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
==Clean-up Gear Pages==
So currently there are Pages for [[Cooler Heads]], [[Jelly Fresh]], [[Shrimp Kicks]], [[Headgear]], [[Clothing]], and [[Shoes]]. Between the shops and gear categories, there's a lot of redundancy in information since the bulk of the information is the actual gear. Personally, I think it should all be merged into one page for Gear or Shops (since there's so little other information on each page) and have each shop/gear category listed as a subheading. Each page would then redirect to that category- i.e.: Headgear would have the code (or something similar to): <pre>#redirect [[Shops#Cooler Heads]]</pre>
 
Since every piece of Gear will (eventually) have its own page, the list of the appropriate gear under each shop , including gear awarded from amiibos and Hero Mode. The lists themselves don't need three individual pages. That's just clutter. I do think Ammo Knights and Weapons should be separate from these three though.
 
There also seems to be the page [[List of gear in Splatoon]] which is an unnecessary page that looks like someone started and forgot about.[[User:Vernanonix|Vernanonix]] ([[User talk:Vernanonix|talk]]) 15:58, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
:Agreed. [[Booyah Base]] can serve as an article for information about the stores themselves, one section per store, if there's anything of importance to say about them to begin with. Then [[weapon]], [[shoe]], etc. can serve as list articles. That general list article you linked to should probably be deleted. [[User:Espyo|Espyo]] ([[User talk:Espyo|talk]]) 16:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
 
::Alright, I've made the initial set-up. Booyah Base now has all the shops listed there and the individual shop pages now redirect to their sections on the page. The formatting is a little wonky but the big part is done.[[User:Vernanonix|Vernanonix]] ([[User talk:Vernanonix|talk]]) 17:22, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

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