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**Ninja Squid hurts players by slowing down their movement.
**Ninja Squid hurts players by slowing down their movement.
*Workload. This ties in with consistency. If one article has a section but another does not, work has to be done to give the latter article the needed content. This has proven to be too much work: the second game in the series came out, but these sections were still not present in articles for the first game's weapons. Let's reduce the workload so we can focus on more important things. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 15:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
*Workload. This ties in with consistency. If one article has a section but another does not, work has to be done to give the latter article the needed content. This has proven to be too much work: the second game in the series came out, but these sections were still not present in articles for the first game's weapons. Let's reduce the workload so we can focus on more important things. [[User:Heddy|Heddy]] ([[User talk:Heddy|talk]]) 15:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
:I'd suggest reformatting the sections to take a more fact-based angle ("major users of this weapon, such as so and so, generally utilize these abilities"), but I think the competitive meta should still be discussed somewhere on this wiki until we finally get the Competitive namespace. {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 15:54, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

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The Ink Pump

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Consensus template

With the recent difficulties of getting formal consensus to make decisions, I'd like to suggest that we make a template that can be used to mark a major discussion. Pages with the template could be linked to on Recent Changes via a category or something. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 20:09, 27 July 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think we need clear guidelines on what makes a major discussion, and what is a consensus. A lot of decisions are made off-site now on Discord simply because it's real time chat and those on the server get notifications about it. Is a major discussion one that is time-pressured? Site-wide change? Site-interface change? Affects some (but not all) users, such as mobile? As for consensus--Sigma talk 04:41, 30 July 2017 (UTC)... perhaps a time limit and if no-one bothers to vote then the motion is passed as a "not enough care one way or another".Reply[reply]
We can certainly add more quick links to the top of Recent Changes via MediaWiki:Recentchangestext and to Inkipedia:Maintenance with the number of ongoing discussions (pages in the category). Perhaps make a quick filter list for recent discussions, though I don't think you can filter by multiple namespaces?
We could make use of the MediaWiki:Sitenotice for really important discussions.
User:Kjhf/Sig 11:30, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
I've made a consensus policy based on SmashWiki's to address your concern. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 13:22, 28 July 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Seems like a good idea. Many discussions never get anywhere because people don't have easy access to them. Making them accessible on the recent changes list would solve that. Heddy (talk) 22:24, 6 August 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bump now that INK:CONSENSUS has been passed. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 22:18, 18 August 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Splatoon 2 Hero Mode Placement

The placement of the Sardinium looks absolutely ridiculous (e.x Return of the Octarians), it should be placed after the Sunken Scroll information. When compared to the original Hero Mode Information (e.x Octotrooper Hideout) it looks sloppy and disorganized. --Snowwarrior92 04:03, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

I only did that because Sardinium appeared before the Sunken Scroll in the infobox. And on that note, shouldn't "scroll" be lowercase in the infobox as it was for the Octo Valley pages? Sigma talk 04:06, 30 July 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I understand the confusion, but we should try to keep to the original format from Splatoon 1. On another note we should change the scroll to lowercase to keep with the original format.--Snowwarrior92 04:17, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
To be fair, Sardinium wasn't in Splatoon. Sigma talk 04:41, 30 July 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I understand where you are coming from and maybe we should try to work together. It might prevent stepping on eachother's toes.--Snowwarrior92 04:45, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Remove recommendations from weapon articles

It's time to overhaul the weapon articles! But before we do that, can we get consensus to remove the recommended abilities and recommended gear sections from weapon articles? These are the reasons:

  • Consistency. Many articles do not have these sections, so removing them altogether will make the wiki more consistent.
  • Conflict. One editor may believe that Ninja Squid helps a Carbon Roller player due to the stealth effect. Another editor may believe that the ability is a bad choice for a Carbon Roller player because of the -10% swim speed penalty. Who is right? Well they're both right about any facts they provide, but their opinions don't really belong here. The objective facts should be stated, on the Ninja Squid article and not the Carbon Roller article:
    • Ninja Squid helps players by providing for stealthy movement.
    • Ninja Squid hurts players by slowing down their movement.
  • Workload. This ties in with consistency. If one article has a section but another does not, work has to be done to give the latter article the needed content. This has proven to be too much work: the second game in the series came out, but these sections were still not present in articles for the first game's weapons. Let's reduce the workload so we can focus on more important things. Heddy (talk) 15:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'd suggest reformatting the sections to take a more fact-based angle ("major users of this weapon, such as so and so, generally utilize these abilities"), but I think the competitive meta should still be discussed somewhere on this wiki until we finally get the Competitive namespace. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 15:54, 20 August 2017 (UTC)Reply[reply]