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I was looking in a YouTube comments section and found out a phone in Animal Crossing called "Antique Phone" resembles Tartar. It will not let me upload it, so here is the link: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/animalcrossing/images/a/ae/NH-Furniture-Antique_phone_%28brown%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20200326171850 [[User:OwenDoesSplatoon|OwenDoesSplatoon]] ([[User talk:OwenDoesSplatoon|talk]]) 02:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
I was looking in a YouTube comments section and found out a phone in Animal Crossing called "Antique Phone" resembles Tartar. It will not let me upload it, so here is the link: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/animalcrossing/images/a/ae/NH-Furniture-Antique_phone_%28brown%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20200326171850 [[User:OwenDoesSplatoon|OwenDoesSplatoon]] ([[User talk:OwenDoesSplatoon|talk]]) 02:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
:It may be that the image is broken. From my end it appears as a placeholder image, although I am unsure if it is just me or not. {{User:VibeCat/Sig}} 23:59, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
::The image does seem to be broken. I do not think it's a reference though, as both the Telephone and the Animal Crossing item are vintage telephones resembling real ones. Also, please try to avoid necroposting, as this message was posted back in March and the editor has not made any contributions since. Thanks! {{User:FancyRat/Sig}}  00:04, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
== Commander Tartar's gender ==
Since you were all so quick to change Dedf1sh's gender after a quite obvious mistranslation on nintendo's part and are just repeating the whole Shiver story again, I suppose it's time to return the favor. Here is the proof that tartar is male: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/character/splatoon/en/story/8/index.html#page-transition   
"The last one standing in their way is Commander Tartar, the mastermind behind Kamabo Co.
'''He''' attacks Agent 8 with the human-like NILS Statue but is defeated thanks to the help of Off the Hook, especially Pearl's Princess Cannon." as seen here, commander Tatar is male as he is referred with "he". Don't ask me how he's male since he's clearly a machine, because when we ask how is dedf1sh is not female, you just answer back with silence. [[User:King Boo|King Boo]] ([[User talk:King Boo|talk]]) 13:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
:I'll take this spoken-of radio silence over the tone you've chosen to discuss this in.
:Tartar is an already released character. Dedf1sh is not. Community consensus is that they will remain "undefined" until the release of Side Order, which is in a little under a month.
:If you wish to change (or revert) Tartar to male, you are free to do so with your provided source. That is all. {{User:Anemoia/Sig}} 13:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
::Dedf1sh was first introduced as a character in splatoon 2's octo expansion. While she did not appear in game, she was credited as the artist for the tracks heard in the test facilities in the deepsea metro. She is referred to with "she" and looks like a girl, this confusion is clearly just because the community wants her to be relatable to them, like what happened to shiver. Anyways, I suppose you are correct in saying that there is no need to be rude over this, I guess we will just have to wait until Side order's release to confirm. [[User:King Boo|King Boo]] ([[User talk:King Boo|talk]]) 13:31, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
:::As someone who doesn't care about the gender I ensure you the reason we changed the gender section to unknown for the time being is all languages suddenly using something neutral or masculine. It is noted respectively so I don't see why this is confused with a case of the community's wanting for relatability. Once Side Order is out and we have more in-game dialogue giving clarity, the section will be updated accordingly. Whether people wish for a gender neutral or unspecified character has no say in that. {{User:Perfectionist/Sig}} 13:39, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
:I would like to mention that Tartar is reffered to as "it" in its character profile on the same site, and I am almost certain the character profiles and story section was released at the same time with the launch of the site [[User:Olivia|Olivia]] ([[User talk:Olivia|talk]]) 13:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
::This is a great point, there are multiple instances of "it" versus only one instance of "he". Additionally, the Japanese version of Splatoon Base was checked by some of our editors and there are no clearly gendered terms used for Tartar there.
::We can't entirely disregard the use of "he" though, so I've changed the infobox gender to "Unknown/possibly male" with a note explaining and linking to the relevant Splatoon Base pages. [[User:Driftin Soul|Driftin Soul]] ([[User talk:Driftin Soul|talk]]) 15:32, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
:::I would honestly just revert to as it was before since the he is obviously a mistake [[User:Olivia|Olivia]] ([[User talk:Olivia|talk]]) 16:23, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
::::I feel like we can disregard the use of male pronouns since the original didn't use explicitly gendered pronouns and that makes it highly unlikely that the devs would tip the translators about it being male, especially considering the overall kinda poor translation of the site and it being one-off [[User:Olivia|Olivia]] ([[User talk:Olivia|talk]]) 17:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
:::::Bumping this [[User:Olivia|Olivia]] ([[User talk:Olivia|talk]]) 12:28, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
::::::Bumping again since it got completely overshadowed by news [[User:Olivia|Olivia]] ([[User talk:Olivia|talk]]) 17:46, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
:Fully agreed with Anemoia, the aggressiveness in this topic is off the charts for seemingly no reason.
:Did you even think to ask '''why''' the Dedf1sh changes had been made, or check the page for sources supporting it (of which there are multiple across various localizations)? Because it seems to me like you just propped up a strawman to get mad at. [[User:Driftin Soul|Driftin Soul]] ([[User talk:Driftin Soul|talk]]) 14:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

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Merge proposal

This will need to be merged with the Commander Tartar page.--Splatzoner (talk) 14:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done. Heddy (talk) 12:40, 16 June 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Master from Fallout, The Borg from Star Trek

Call me crazy, but Commander Tartar's origins and motives are awfully like those of the Master from the original Fallout game. Both assume a final form produced from biomass and are obsessed with creating the ultimate life form to roam the Earth. The major differences are that you cannot negotiate with Commander Tartar nor convince him that his ultimate plan is a failure from the start…

DaDoc540 (talk) 13:01, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Even before Fallout, Star Trek had the Borg, a vast collection of cybernetic organisms whose ultimate goal is "achieving perfection" by assimilating other organisms deemed worthy of adding to its gene pool. Unlike the Zerg in StarCraft, The Borg do not cull species it considers too inferior; they simply ignore them unless they ever pose a threat or are directed to attack.

"We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile."

DaDoc540 (talk) 20:33, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why was the spoiler tag removed?

I just don't understand why the spoiler tag was removed. There are still spoilers on here. tecanec (talk) 06:05, 25 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Inkipedia's Spoiler Policy was updated about a month ago. Basically, Spoiler tags are no longer in use on Inkipedia. AmbientDinosaurSig.pngAmbientDinosaurSigTalk.png 07:49, 25 April 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

tartar gender

I am 90% certain that tartar is male — Preceding unsigned comment added by DuckSaxDog1 (talkcontribs)

If you can provide a source, it can be added. Inkling luke.png Inkling talk.png 21:38, 11 August 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commander tartar

So this is a pure guess but, I think that in Splatoon 3 tartar is back to destroy, after the final splatfest. It is said tartar lies on a mountain, I'm not sure which mountain, but maybe the inkling we see in the trailer is agent 7 needs to bring the world of splatoon together after the final splatfest, while tartar is scheming once again, so all of the inklings and octolings have to join together to stop him once and for all. This is just my guess. Blorbenz (talk) 20:59, 29 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

About the blender boss in concept art

Is the blender originally the final boss in Octo Expansion? Agent Brian (talk) 20:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why would it be? ~~~~ Greasy Hot Dog (talk) 12:39, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Animal Crossing Reference?

I was looking in a YouTube comments section and found out a phone in Animal Crossing called "Antique Phone" resembles Tartar. It will not let me upload it, so here is the link: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/animalcrossing/images/a/ae/NH-Furniture-Antique_phone_%28brown%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20200326171850 OwenDoesSplatoon (talk) 02:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It may be that the image is broken. From my end it appears as a placeholder image, although I am unsure if it is just me or not. VibeCat VibeCat Profile Image.jpg (talk page) 23:59, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The image does seem to be broken. I do not think it's a reference though, as both the Telephone and the Animal Crossing item are vintage telephones resembling real ones. Also, please try to avoid necroposting, as this message was posted back in March and the editor has not made any contributions since. Thanks! S3 Badge Nautilus 47 5.pngFancyRatCredits - Inkling Boy Eating Popsicle.png 00:04, 15 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commander Tartar's gender

Since you were all so quick to change Dedf1sh's gender after a quite obvious mistranslation on nintendo's part and are just repeating the whole Shiver story again, I suppose it's time to return the favor. Here is the proof that tartar is male: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/character/splatoon/en/story/8/index.html#page-transition "The last one standing in their way is Commander Tartar, the mastermind behind Kamabo Co. He attacks Agent 8 with the human-like NILS Statue but is defeated thanks to the help of Off the Hook, especially Pearl's Princess Cannon." as seen here, commander Tatar is male as he is referred with "he". Don't ask me how he's male since he's clearly a machine, because when we ask how is dedf1sh is not female, you just answer back with silence. King Boo (talk) 13:01, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'll take this spoken-of radio silence over the tone you've chosen to discuss this in.
Tartar is an already released character. Dedf1sh is not. Community consensus is that they will remain "undefined" until the release of Side Order, which is in a little under a month.
If you wish to change (or revert) Tartar to male, you are free to do so with your provided source. That is all. Anemoia Anemoia Sig.png [Talk!] 13:10, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Dedf1sh was first introduced as a character in splatoon 2's octo expansion. While she did not appear in game, she was credited as the artist for the tracks heard in the test facilities in the deepsea metro. She is referred to with "she" and looks like a girl, this confusion is clearly just because the community wants her to be relatable to them, like what happened to shiver. Anyways, I suppose you are correct in saying that there is no need to be rude over this, I guess we will just have to wait until Side order's release to confirm. King Boo (talk) 13:31, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As someone who doesn't care about the gender I ensure you the reason we changed the gender section to unknown for the time being is all languages suddenly using something neutral or masculine. It is noted respectively so I don't see why this is confused with a case of the community's wanting for relatability. Once Side Order is out and we have more in-game dialogue giving clarity, the section will be updated accordingly. Whether people wish for a gender neutral or unspecified character has no say in that.   Perfectionist   (talk) 13:39, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would like to mention that Tartar is reffered to as "it" in its character profile on the same site, and I am almost certain the character profiles and story section was released at the same time with the launch of the site Olivia (talk) 13:49, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This is a great point, there are multiple instances of "it" versus only one instance of "he". Additionally, the Japanese version of Splatoon Base was checked by some of our editors and there are no clearly gendered terms used for Tartar there.
We can't entirely disregard the use of "he" though, so I've changed the infobox gender to "Unknown/possibly male" with a note explaining and linking to the relevant Splatoon Base pages. Driftin Soul (talk) 15:32, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would honestly just revert to as it was before since the he is obviously a mistake Olivia (talk) 16:23, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I feel like we can disregard the use of male pronouns since the original didn't use explicitly gendered pronouns and that makes it highly unlikely that the devs would tip the translators about it being male, especially considering the overall kinda poor translation of the site and it being one-off Olivia (talk) 17:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bumping this Olivia (talk) 12:28, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bumping again since it got completely overshadowed by news Olivia (talk) 17:46, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fully agreed with Anemoia, the aggressiveness in this topic is off the charts for seemingly no reason.
Did you even think to ask why the Dedf1sh changes had been made, or check the page for sources supporting it (of which there are multiple across various localizations)? Because it seems to me like you just propped up a strawman to get mad at. Driftin Soul (talk) 14:24, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]