Talk:Language in the Splatoon series

Official name

If the Splatoon tumblr is considered canon, then Inkling is the official name per this post. --sunmarsh (talk) 17:24, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

That bit about Hylian

The various versions of the alphabet are all openly ciphers, thus it is unlikely that spoken Hylian is anything but gibberish (doesn't make all that much sense to write an actual language as a cipher of written Japanese or English, does it?). The functional Hylian language is a fan project, and thus Nintendo has not produced any language in the past, unless there is some other example.

Oh, and by the way I think I'm going to try to work out the details of spoken Inkling to see how far of a stretch formulating a grammar would be.

IrritatedEchinoderm (talk) 06:13, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

NatsuLink

Hey, NatsuLink, it seems you uploaded some Splatfest shirts without checking the uploaded image list. I actually already added Splatfest Tees in the Splatfest Tee page. If you could possibly remove the copies that you uploaded, that'd be great.

Thanks, --Sigma (talk) 03:44, 10 August 2015 (UTC)Sigma

Potential problems with alphabet notations

Though I understand the chart exists for the purpose of an alphabet example, the subtitled information for each glyph may be inaccurate. I mostly note that the user that created those charts has suggested "Hello" is written one way when it's quite possible there's evidence in the Plaza that it's written another way.

While we can't be certain, there are numerous "Hello My name is" type stickers plastered around the city. If anyone is familiar with something else those types of badges say, it'd be great to know. (I've not been able to find anything similar.) Of course the pronunciation is different no matter how you look at it, but it oes beg the question if they're going in the right direction.

OR MAYBE IT'S ALL GIBBERISH. But I'm seeing patterns. I study Japanese as well, so I'm looking at both versions.

Mikenno (talk) 04:14, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Ehh yeah those charts have never really sit right with me. Mostly cuz there's a ton of other symbols that aren't on there, while some of the ones that are... I've never even seen used in the game. And the fact that the pronunciations given for each one seem to just be random. I don't know what an alternative would be, though. --Bzeep! talk 04:27, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

It's almost... um, totally random. the producer's interview tells that. though, Some letters is similar to some Japanese words. http://news.mynavi.jp/articles/2015/08/06/Splatoon02/002.html --Azoth (talk) 04:48, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh. That's pretty important actually, the producers confirming the language to be random. Should put that on the page somewhere... --Bzeep! talk 04:53, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I added it. But what should we do with Inkling Full 1.jpeg, Inkling Full 2.jpeg, and Inkling Full 3.jpeg? If they weren't already inaccurate, they definitely are now. --Bzeep! talk 05:04, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh. Talk about the most disappointing thing for a linguist to find. It's basically along the lines of "we didn't want this to correspond to any language in particular" and the goal was for it to look cool. Had someone who can read Japanese better check it and she summarized - "They wanted to make it hard to make out and distinguish, and because they were creating an entire world from scratch, they didn't want to base it on any one language." I thought maybe it still has a structure, and she responded, "I'm not sure if this is right but he seems to say they don't use phonetic symbols the way we do. Maybe that it's different structurally, but not anything about its structure if it has one." Mikenno (talk) 05:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

And more, this Arrows are also a word, for "ブイヤベース" (Booyah Base). ←"↑↑→"▼ the Artbook definitely shows that. ya, it seems there are a lot of missing letters on the character tables more than we think.--Azoth (talk) 05:43, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

looks like the cheat code is not a cheat code and is just Booyah Base in Inkling? Man what a bummer. User:Kjhf/Sig 08:48, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, definitely. you can see the arrows and "ブイヤベース". http://imgur.com/USyWvYR --Azoth (talk) 18:16, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

And this book shows one of the ways to design the Inkling character. They distort the related Japanese words to make ones, as we had expected. The distortion sequence of "みみ" (mimi) and "ミミイカ" (mimi ika, Bobtail squid. the illustration on the left). The lower one seems to be based on "ヒラメ"(hirame, Flounder). Of course they have other ways also to make characters. http://imgur.com/PJRWMvZ --Azoth (talk) 18:54, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Before I make a silly move, I must discuss it.

Shouldn't this be renamed "Inkling (language)"? After all, 'language' is just a normal noun, not a name or title, so there's no point in capitalizing the "l". Drilly the Hedgehog 03:45, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that would be good! Mr Squid (talk) 06:35, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Sure, it'll match the other ones with parentheses in their names. :y --11:54, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Ika Radio 2 picture

Anyone think that the logo of Squid Beatz 2, the Ammo Knights logo and others should be on here? SquiddyGirlTalk 22:40, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Are there other languages?

In some dialogue for Manta Maria, Pearl says how she'd like to travel around the world, and Marina says she should at least learn some other languages. Does this mean that there are regional languages? I'm assuming she's not referring to octarian, since Pearl would know a bit from Marina and Idk if there are very many octos outside of Inkopolis. (Since they wouldn't know about the Splatlands) Should this be mentioned? (and if so, where? there's no trivia section) WoomyGirl85 (talk) 15:42, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Why the "F***" would you allow Jelfonzo's shirt to remain uncensored?

It is entirely different from having the word spelled out in game in English letters. It is entirely different from when other sites use it in a quote of a real person who is not bound by an ESRB rating (and in that case, should they be doing it?). If it can be referenced to on-site without repercussions, I should be able to make a topic like this in reference to content on-site, right? What average child would read it in-game and be able to decipher it? What is the logic behind putting this out in the open?

I don't care if it's partially censored, that's fine by me; the entire word being spelled out is irresponsible at best and thoughtless at worst.

Orderpunk (talk) 04:16, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

The job of the wiki is to be true to the source material, not to arbitrate what is inappropriate or not. Our policy was written without the forethought of finding material that we would not want to report on. And so the problem is the source material is in conflict with our own policy, which stands in the way of correctly reporting and recording knowledge about the game.

Furthermore, if you have a key which allows anyone to translate to/from script and English, then there is no point in hiding what the word says, as it can be easily translated by anyone. Slate Talk Contribs 17:24, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Just because we want to be thorough and true to the source material doesn't mean we cannot be delicate about how we do it.

Orderpunk (talk) 20:34, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

I feel like we should censor it and add a note saying it was censored because of the wiki’s policy or something. I do agree it should be censored it some way. OrderSquid123 (talk) 10:43, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

The policy was created when no one ever expected Nintendo to do something like this. This wiki is an encyclopedia; it should accurately represent the game and educate, not censor. Censoring official Splatoon content is definitely not something a Splatoon encyclopedia should be doing. I think the policy should be changed to allow quotes from official Splatoon content; after all, there is always the possibility that Nintendo could create a T-rated Splatoon game. Heddy (talk) 17:29, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

The game this particular piece of information is from is not rated T. This is not about what could be in the future. It is about what rules state now, and why any exception would be made for something that is within the contents of a site about a series of games that is rated below a T, the site in question having rules against it in the first place.

If the key is there, people can draw their own conclusions just fine if they really care that much to know what comes after the letter F. If my topic about it needed to be censored, I think it should be censored on the page itself.

Orderpunk (talk) 20:34, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

I see that we brought ourselves to a Bob Hoskins situation.

I don't see a problem with having "f***" uncensored, primarily because for the reasons mentioned about censoring content that to me any information can be vital to some. Now I know we're comparing a transcription of a word to a quote said by a movie actor, but I really think Inkipedia should decide if they want to censor content or not. MarioWiki has a section regarding this topic that I recommend you read carefully. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 09:11, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

(Replying to also mention the aforementioned section is the very last in that page, since it may be easy to miss)

I mentioned it here, but to have it this talk page too: I'm in favor of leaving it uncesored not only because I agree with the statement in the Mario Wiki, but also because it's documentation of something in-game

When internal discussion is over, we should host a vote. I've seen both sides being vocal, but not on the wiki, so this will help with understanding who is in favor of the raw text or not. ~ Nick the Splatoon Fanboy Chat Contributions 12:51, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Sure, it's in-game, but it's not in English. It's not supposed to be read so blatantly. It is in a game where language like that is not supposed to be read, at least not easily. I would be fine with a vote, but I am allowed to express how tasteless I think it is just like everyone else who thinks it's tasteful and in the name of documentation.

When the elaboration of Inkipedia's rule against inappropriate content, which contains curse words, says that:

Inkipedia is visited by a wide range of users, many of whom are children or want a safe, clean environment to read and edit.

How is it taking this long for someone to make a decision? If there's a final decision to keep it uncensored, I won't have any ground to stand on, but we need to be honest with ourselves. Do we actually care about who visits Inkipedia? Do we actually care about their comfort? It wouldn't be completely censored when that information is decipherable on the same page, and that's fine by me. I'm not trying to say, "we need to be dishonest about what information is in the game and we need to be as unclear about it as possible," I'm saying it should, at the VERY least, take some time to look at instead of having it out in the open on a site with clear ruling against it.

Orderpunk (talk) 15:14, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Hear me out...

Ok, I haven't been able to be on here much at all lately (and won't for the next week, sorry), but with the shirt war, I remembered something. In the Art of Splatoon 2, the concept art for him shows this exact shirt and is labeled the "'You Suck' shirt". I can provide images if needed, but maybe this can help? It would be great to avoid profanity on a wiki for a childrens game if at all possible. WoomyGirl85 (talk) 16:41, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

I know exactly what shirt you're talking about, and was thinking about uploading that concept art the shows all the shirts since it'd be a nice addition to the wiki. I'll do that soon. However, I don't think the '**** YOU' shirt needs to be replaced or have its entire existence censored, as it is official Splatoon content. Additionally, the "you suck" shirt uses bubble script rather than round script (it's actually where I got started on deciphering bubble script!), thus it is not exactly the same. Rassicas {Talk} {Contribs} 18:35, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Don't have a picture, but...

The squarescript text that appears at the top left of the screen when Off the Hook's logo flashes on screen when you boot up the game reads "HIGHCOLORTV". The same text also appears at the bottom of Off the Hook's big TV where they show the stages and stuff, but only when there are no stages or anything on the screen, and even then it's partially obscured by Pearl. Both instances of this text are small and easy-to-miss, but if you look, you can spot it. Another thing I translated is an orange sign with a few Inklings on it to the left of Crusty Sean's food truck. There's a lot of squarescript on this particular sign, but I believe that only the big stuff at the top is non-gibberish. The biggest word (it's two letters long) just says "NO". Very... helpful? The slightly smaller text next to it reads "(G/W)ONIN NO IKA WA OR INASU COO(L/V) MA MO". I do not speak Japanese (like, at all), but between Google Translate and my knowledge of "IKA" meaning "SQUID", I think it says something about five squids looking cool and posing. Feel free to correct me, because I am probably (definitely) wrong. Also, the text is fairly grainy on this sign and some of the letters blend together, so I might have gotten a few characters wrong. Avery_TSP (conversing) 01:14, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Oh, that orange sign was something that was attempted to be deciphered in my discord server! Not just the first line, but the entire poster is in proper Japanese. However, some letters were impossible to read. I'll see if I can upload it with what was deciphered.

As for the first example, you could probably find an image of Inkopolis News here on the wiki somewhere, and explain the translations in the description. Rassicas {Talk} {Contribs} 04:19, 13 June 2022 (UTC)