Inkipedia:Ink Pump

The Ink Pump

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Title casing

Decision needs adding to the Manual of Style. Are we using title case for all articles or sentence case? I think the overwhelming unwritten rule at the moment is title case. I assume this should also include articles that include parentheses such as Recon (Mode) rather than Recon (mode). User:Kjhf/Sig 13:01, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Image Resource

Hey guys, I don't know which, if any, of these images would be useful to you but this seems like a pretty good resource: GoNintendo's Splatoon Flickr Album. Embyr 75 (talk) 17:37, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

There are some really cool images in there, but I think most of them are already in use. They're all big and high quality though, maybe there's some that can replace any small or low-quality versions we got here. --Bzeep! talk 17:57, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Inkpedia Contest

We have the barnsquids and we probably could do one, so should we make one? Chriscoded (talk)

Sounds like a nice thing to do in the future! There's nothing really stopping us AmbientDinosaur (talk) 01:52, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Standardizing "Name in other languages" sections

Hey I would like to standardize the "Name in other languages" sections a bit.

I think a translated version of the name always should be included, and then include an explanation of the parts of the name or other facts (like puns, references and so on).

For example:

Names in other languages

Exceptions should be if the name is literally the same in both english and the other language (like the N-ZAP, which only has slightly different formatting of the name). In those cases only an explanation should do. Also, if more than one language has the same name, the explanation should be used for the first language and the rest can simply use "Same as (first language).

However, a translation should still be given even if the translation turns out be the same as the english name in that language.

For example:

Names in other languages

AmbientDinosaur (talk) 02:40, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

AUEU -> EUOC

Seems it's Europe and Oceania rather than Australia and Europe, template move again? () 16:26, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

For, I can have my bot do it if consensus (Don't see why not) User:Kjhf/Sig 17:41, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Single Player Walkthrough

Is it okay to copy the walkthrough from the Official Prima Guide? Because if it was, I could do all walkthroughs for every stage. Just wondering if that's okay or not. - Jer455 (Talk) 03:09, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm thinking it's probably not a good idea to copy it - using Prima's copyrighted walkthroughs directly probably doesn't qualify as fair use, and would also be incompatible with the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license that all text contributed to Inkipedia is licensed as (Inkipedia:Copyrights). --Kaioora (talk) 04:57, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Weapon Classifications

Do we have an official standard we're following as to what classification a main weapon is? For example, I would not have expected Splatling to be its own class (it's a shooter) if we're not classing Blasters and Inkbrushes as separate from Shooters and Rollers, respectively.
User:Kjhf/Sig 15:46, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

• I guess it really comes down to how they control and act. Splatlings however act differently than Shooters in that they require a charge, Sloshers are different from Shooters due to using ink in an arc-like fashion. At the same time, Blasters and Brushes are pretty different from their Shooter and Roller parent category in a number of ways. Other resources like Prima and IGN only categorize between the Main three (Shooter, Charger, and Roller), which I guess makes sense if we're going by the Amiibo challenges, but it seems pretty outdated since the addition of Splatlings and Sloshers.
  There are a few ways to handle this if we're reclassifying. Right now we have 5 main weapon categories, but we have 2 we consider subcategories. We could only have the main three as main categories with Splatlings, Blasters, Brushes, and Sloshers distributed into subcategories of the main three. Each of the previously mentioned could have their own even category. I'd be fine with reclassifying for the most part. ~CreatorGX (Talk) 18:51, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Here's my stance. I think everything should stay as it is. While they may not be officially recognized in game as seperate classes, I don't the new weapon types are enough like any of the other classes to be considered sub classes at all. The Slosher plays nothing like Shooters, Rollers, or Chargers, and if Splatlings were to be in a sub class, I think they belong in chargers. These reasons are kind of why I disagree with CreatorGX's proposals for new categorization. While the brushes and blasters may have different playSTYLES from rollers and shooters respectively, the mechanics behind them are essentially the same. Both rollers and brushes flick ink when Template:ZR is tapped, and leave trails behind the player when the button is held, and both shooters and blasters fire shots when Template:ZR is held. The only difference between them is the speed at which they're played, brushes being faster than rollers, and blasters being slower than shooters, which is where the different playstyles come from. However, this isn't the case with Splatlings and Sloshers because they don't play the same as the other three main classes. This is why I think they should be left as is. I know this whole speech is probably really confusing but it's just my opinion. - IanMS00 talk 21:36, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Competitive Formatting

So, how should we go about formatting for competitive tournaments, both fan made (those posted on /r/Splatoon and Squidboards) and official (Nintendo Koshien). The same thing with teams if possible. I'd like to be able to record the progress of Splatoon's competitive side for future use. --BestTeaMaker (talk) 20 September 2015 4:14 AM UTC

I like the idea of covering the competitive scene, but we'd have to make sure we handle it carefully and from a neutral point of view so that it's not construed as being just advertisements for the tournaments. The main article namespace may not be the best place for it as it's not official information about Splatoon. Maybe it'd be a better idea to have separate Tournaments: and Teams: namespaces? --Kaioora (talk) 04:21, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

What I don't get is why templates I made for the competitive pages got flagged for deletion. Is there some sort of rule concerning those? --BestTeaMaker (talk) 20 September 2015 4:47 AM UTC

It's because having information for competitive play hadn't been discussed or proposed, and they were created in the main article namespace, which is for information about the game itself, not fan projects. Also, the promotion of tournaments is already kind of iffy, since it could easily fall under advertisement, especially since you're affiliated with what you're adding and there's money involved in the tournaments. Not only that, but if we are to include competitive play in some capacity on Inkipedia, it should cover as many different groups as possible, not just a select few. --Bzeep! talk 05:12, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

I understand the part about me being involved with the tournaments could lead to iffiness, but honestly there's not that many tournaments that have been completed. Since there were so few, I thought it'd be good to start getting down the format for the events, which is why I was kinda sad to see the template pages being marked for deletion. The only tournaments I've seen being talked about much are either Nintendo's Koshien series or the ones featured on Squidboards. --BestTeaMaker (talk) 20 September 2015 5:25 AM UTC

Having information on tournaments should still be discussed with one or more admins before it's put on the wiki, given the unofficial nature of most tournaments and the fact that it's irrelevant information for many people who play Splatoon - if they don't look at or play in tournaments, that's a whole chunk of information that doesn't apply to their gaming experience at all, and, IMHO, Inkipedia should appeal to anyone who plays Splatoon. Aaaaaaaand it should also be discussed with admins because of the money involved. Lastly, they're still marked for deletion because even if we do end up adding information about tournaments, it would not be in the main article namespace, as they're a community project. :b --Bzeep! talk 13:05, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Discussing the competitive scene definitely should be on here. But as previously stated, it shouldn't be in the mainspace and we should have a separate space for it. Perhaps the delete template was a bit harsh, possibly the {{move}} would have been better - or have a {{todo}} explaining the situation and a link to Ink Pump. User:Kjhf/Sig 15:43, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, now that I think about it, it makes more sense to have move templates, not delete. I'll change them. --Bzeep! talk 16:11, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Do templates themselves have their own subspaces? --BestTeaMaker (talk) 20 September 2015 6:22 PM UTC

I agree that things that are not actually part of the official Splatoon universe should not be in mainspace. - 20:21, 20 September 2015 (UTC)