Talk:Side Order

Main or "Fan Fic" Canon?

Do you think this "Side Order" DLC part of the main canon of the Splatoon world, or just a canonical "fan fic" of if Order won the final splatfest of Splatoon 2?

If you don't understand: Main Canon: Part of the story of Splatoon "Fan Fic" Canon/Side Canon: What canonically would have happened if something else happened.

hey. I play Splatoon. Who knew. (talk) 15:02, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

I think it's canon. It looks like it has something to do with Team Order, maybe this is a scrapped idea if Team Order won; so it was then released as a DLC. Randomnamehere (talk) 19:44, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

The same sort of thing happened in Octo canyon. Marie won Callie vs. Marie, than she was the one who was helping Agent 4...so if Callie had won... the final battle would be Pink(Agent 4) vs. Green(Marie)? Smallfry (talk) 14:44, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

This page is for discussion of the article, not speculation on the DLC mode's contents. We will add this information when it is revealed. Yoshifan52 (talk) 20:14, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

If you go to (Splatoon™ 3 for Nintendo Switch™ – Expansion Pass - Inkopolis & Side Order DLC) web page and scroll down you will see that they confirmed that we will see what would have happened if order won the spatfest in inkopolis square SquidKid7750 (talk) 19:45, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Personally I don't think that should be taken as such extremely concrete information...that website is, as far as I can tell, the only source for that "confirmation", so it could easily be just be odd phrasing from a marketing guy rather than a clear indication of what the story line will be...I'd seen that sentence on the official website before you kept repeatedly trying to add it to the page, and had spent a good while trying to find any equivalent information from Japanese sources (which I'd consider a bit more reliable since things can be lost in translation/localization) and found nothing even mentioning the idea of it being "what would have happened" on the JP websites/social media, at least as far as I could find. It's still theoretically possible, I suppose, but right now the only evidence seems to only exist in English, and considering that things can get lost in translation even in the games themselves I hesitate to take a random marketing blurb as the definite truth when we have practically no other context... Pringlesfan2002 (talk) 18:21, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Yea. I've grown a tad after that time I commented. I think what the creator was trying to say was if we should treat Side Order as a fanon thing or canon thing. If Side Order is if Team Order won... then it should be treated as fanon content, like the manga ( I think the Manga isn't canon ). User:Randomnamehere/Sig 14:51, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Manga isn't canon, but Sdodr probably is, because it will unlock Inkopolis Sqare CatVan333 (talk) 15:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Brain "Coral"

Could the brain picture actually be brain coral? There is a bit of it in the trailer. Ink Me Up! File:S3 Badge Order 10.png 17:20, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Maybe... Lofiguy (talk) 18:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Its more likely that its brain coral but we don't know for sure, i think we should put something like "has the appearance of a brain but is more likely brain coral" or something like that Ratch 18:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll work on it. Ink Me Up! File:S3 Badge Order 10.png 18:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Ya your description is better xD Ratch 19:06, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

TY. Ink Me Up! File:S3 Badge Order 10.png 19:09, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

should I add something about how the black spikes could be a warning for nuclear radiation

what I think it is: https://hyperallergic.com/312318/a-nuclear-warning-designed-to-last-10000-years/ Ratch 19:22, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Ooooh, very interesting! Since its a bit more complicated than the coral, you might need to ask someone else. Ink Me Up! File:S3 Badge Order 10.png 19:27, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I'll probably put it on my page as one of my theories, Its very far-fetched and would probably not fit with official stuff Ratch 19:36, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

i don't know about that but i do know that none the less the game is gonna be great! tho i'm not too willing to wait till 2024 but i'll wait Octogamingpro (talk) 08:20, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

I personally think it has something to do with Marina's Memories, due to the octoling looking (Kind of?) Similar to her, and the entire fact of that octoling looking... lost. Could be a knod to her Childhood in octarian society... though I'm not really sure 🤔 Lil' octoling (talk) 10:14, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

nah i think its not marina like people keep theorizing becaus i think its eight MochiMochi (talk) 00:38, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Same here! and the "unknown octoling" has the same haircut as what agent 8 has in Octo expansion promos. Smallfry (talk) 15:31, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Inkling in Characters section

I think the inclusion of a still containing a barely discernible Inkling character is not enough evidence to list them as a character confirmed to appear in the mode. The stills resemble concept art (as the Octoling's design is inconsistent between images), which may not make it to the final product. What do others think? Yoshifan52 (talk) 20:36, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Agreed. Miss Delibirda (talk) 20:38, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I have to agree too. I added to the Inkling with (assumed through trailer footage) but a shadow is not really what you want to rely on in an argument wether there is one or not. The Gallery with picture in question should keep the comment, however if a compromise/consensus is in order.   Perfectionist   (talk) 20:43, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

No harm was meant on your part, don't sweat it. I think the image caption I added should be kept, but generally we should watch what amount of speculation is added surrounding the images. Yoshifan52 (talk) 20:51, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I guess you can't really conclude anything about the pointy eared shadow being an Inkling, since throughout the entire trailer, the Octoling is shown with pointy ears and without suction cups. User:Randomnamehere/Sig 12:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Blackish-dark colored ink?

If you look closely in one of the elevator pics where the octoling is standing outside of the elevator, and the one with the window, you can see some blackish ink seeping out under the elevator door and through the window. Ig this should be mentioned in the article somewhere?

OCTOd2 (talk) 14:09, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Unknown Octoling

Octoling from the Side Order teaser

File:Agent 8 from release art.jpg

Agent 8

Isn't it very highly speculated that this Octoling is most likely Agent 8? Since their connection with Pearl and Marina? SoupnQuackers (talk) 16:13, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but it's unconfirmed. Miss Delibirda (talk) 16:13, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

How would 8 get ahold of Pearl's outfit? Bobby(talk) 16:14, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Pearl's out fit is a dress resembling Marie's but in a different colour and that octoling is more like resembling callie's outfit. Also why would she/he get ahold of it? and this is side order and probably has somthing to do with splatoon 2's final fest saying that chaos won and side order might be showing what would have happend if order won and they would not do side chaos because splatsville is called the city of chaos and 8 chose order so that is why 8 is shown here but it might be like agent 3 where there is also a new agent 3 maybe that is a new agent 8 Octogamingpro (talk) 08:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Pearl is robot now, what clothing uoy'r talking about? CatVan333 (talk) 15:30, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Plus there are two more that haven't had to mentions Splatoon 3 yet so I think this is what happened when a got to Inkopalis

square if order had won Smallfry (talk) 01:13, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

SoupnQuackers:That's not Pearl's outfit, Pearl's outfit is a sleeveless dress

The character highly resembles 8, but until we get official confirmation either from Nintendo or the mode's eventual release, it would be incorrect (and irresponsible) to add that information to the page. Yoshifan52 (talk) 23:31, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Excactly. Arceusgjengen (talk) 08:45, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

honestly, in my opinion i think we are gonna play as agent 8 again

i also think that cuz agent 8 in the final splatfest artwork agent 8 was in team order so...

that may b possible SASHAL1NG (talk) 18:57, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

"Maybe" isn't enough to add it. Arceusgjengen (talk) 07:21, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Trivia section contents

A) Recently someone added a trivia point claiming the Octoling is "taller" than the player Octolings; I find this to be misleading as the character is wearing a new piece of shoes gear, which for all we know could make all Octolings that wear the boots appear taller, the same way the Neo Octoling Boots (S2) or Pearlescent Kicks (S2 and S3) work in-game. I'd like to remove the trivia point as it's completely unclear how much taller the character is, as well as whether or not their footwear contributes to their supposed taller height, but would appreciate others' input.

If in the end it's decided to keep the information, I think that fact should be added to the description section of the article rather than to trivia.

B) Would it be appropriate to note that the still images that appear briefly in the trailer strongly resemble mid-production concept art? The Octoling's inconsistent skintone from image to image compared to how they appear in-engine (in-game) is the biggest factor towards making me believe this is the case. Yoshifan52 (talk) 23:39, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

I think we should remove the trivia point. Many shoes increase the player's height making the trivia farfetched. Odd (Talk) 23:45, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

i did a comparison and while this octoling does appear taller than the tallest possible height for the main playable octoling girl (wearing slamgerine slip ons, which are the tallest shoes in the game), the difference in their posture especially makes it too hard to tell for sure imo, so i think it would be best to remove it for now... Sourguppyworm (talk) 01:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Woah amazing comparison! While the model does appear a bit different, there's been quite a few cases where models and stage design was altered between Direct trailers and final releases, so I hesitate to consider this worthy of being noted on the page before the mode's release. Yoshifan52 (talk) 01:45, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

"Fish" at the end

If you look closely at the fish in the end, you see that its not actually fish, but small strips of paper that imitate fish.

OCTOd2 (talk) 14:51, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Nice catch! I can't conclusively tell if the thingies are paper or plastic, but I'll correct the description to not call them outright "fish". Yoshifan52 (talk) 23:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

There's a lot of f1sh in Sdodr. A lot of ded f1sh CatVan333 (talk) 15:33, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Ok :) OCTOd2 (talk) 14:11, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

Personally i think its paper

OCTOd2 (talk) 14:12, 16 February 2023 (UTC)

The Spikes in One of the Images

As multiple people online have pointed out, the spikes in this image resemble hostile nuclear warning architecture. Should we add this as trivia/point it out somewhere or no? Tons-of-ducks (talk) 17:05, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed reply! The resemblance seems strong to me even if it's coincidental, so I've added it to the page. Yoshifan52 (talk) 18:20, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Tons-of-ducks (talk) 01:07, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Themes in the trailor

Through a lot of the photos, themes like elavators and a black substance are a common theme, do they deserve a mention in the article? -Xando (talk) 16:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

At this time there isn't enough information to be able to determine what the themes of the mode will be, as the plot is unknown. We cannot conclusively say the trailer suggests the mode will have themes of elevators (or what elevators may symbolize) simply because the teaser showed concept art of elevators; that is speculative. There isn't enough information to go off of. It's best if we wait for official confirmation and/or the official release itself before we draw any such conclusions.

None of the released campaign mode articles note those storylines' themes presently; I don't think it's something worth looking into noting on the wiki given its subjective and analytical nature.

If you would like to add elaboration regarding the assumed areas the images depict to the teaser description section that would be fine, but at this time we have almost no information on plot and themes. Yoshifan52 (talk) 17:49, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

That makes sense. Thanks! -Xando (talk) 20:36, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Pillars in the 6th image

I disagree that the 6th teaser image is obviously pillars. I thought it was spikes when I first saw it, and a lot of other people also think that they are spikes. I can see the pillars too, but to me it is a like an optical illusion where you can see either.  GX_64 (talk)  09:52, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

IMO it's vague on first glance, but upon detailed inspection they are more like caves or gaps in between white pillars. Considering how the pink roots are drawn on the white structures, they do look like pillars. The pink roots floats where they touch the dark area, which seems to depict a body of water. It looks a bit like black spikes poking out of the body of water, but if you look closely at the water surface where it touches the white structures, the body of water is rendered to be extending inward through the dark space, so they must be holes and not spikes. Also note that none of the pink roots goes behind the "black spikes". Harimaron (talk) 10:17, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

I think its some sort of warning or wall like to prevent you going out of bounds or like you CANT leave cause its forbidden but idk ~~~ MochiMochi (talk) 00:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Spanish DLC release date

I've seen this once or twice, but apparently on Nintendo/SRL's spanish twitter, a promo image said 2024 under the promo image for side order. Is this true, and if it is, should we put it in the article? -Xando (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

It's a possibility it might be a placeholder or a coincidence, so when the official release date is revealed, we could add that. KPOfficial26 (talk) 18:48, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Two things.

1: Shouldn't we add the sound file for the music that plays during the teaser, at least until Side Order releases and/or the soundtrack is officially released?

2: Recent datamines have revealed that Nintendo accidentally added a reward for completing the DLC; that reward is Inkopolis Square. Since this is actually confirmed, as it was in the game's files, shouldn't we add that to the page?

Sorry if I sound stupid saying this. Moon (talk) 01:19, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

As for point one, we *could* but its probably full of other sounds or effects that detract from listening and therefore is not valuable. As for the second, absolutely not. We do not want to use datamines in that fashion for unreleased material as it is something prone to takedowns—Pikipedia was DMCA'd for similar datamine for future release content and thats not something to risk here either. Trig - 01:25, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Alright. Moon (talk) 02:01, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Side Order's italian name gives us a leak...?!

the italian name of side order is "torre dell'ordine" (translate: the tower of order) so that means... SASHAL1NG (talk) 19:01, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

It's not a leak per se, it's officially released material. It's too soon to tell how the tower connects to the mode's story.

Please note that talk pages are for discussing how to improve articles, not sharing theories and speculation. Yoshifan52 (talk) 21:45, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Separate Gallery Page?

The images are clogging up the page, we should probably make a new page for them. FOCUS TREE (talk) 02:03, 15 September 2023 (UTC)