Inkipedia:Proposals/Passed/Gear navbox overhaul

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A proposal to change the gear-related navboxes site-wide; this will entail editing approximately 700 gear pages (at this time there are 681 unique pieces of gear total across all games, with at least 10 more on their way with the new season).

The current gear navbox system has the gear sorted by star count/power; the star power system is not an intuitive nor practical method of navigating from one gear piece to the other across the wiki. I'm proposing a new system of organizing these navboxes per type (headgear, clothing or shoes) and/or per brand; a full demonstration of both types can be seen here.

Under these new sorting systems, gear is sorted by type (ie. all S2 headgear pages would have the S2 headgear navbox) and per brand (ie. all S2 Annaki gear pages would have the S2 Annaki gear navbox). I would like to implement both navbox types for all gear (ie. an individual S2 Annaki brand headgear item's page would have both the S2 headgear and S2 Annaki gear navboxes together), but I haven't collected enough feedback from other editors to determine which navbox implementation is considered ideal.

The other major change applied regardless of navbox system chosen is the addition of icons beside the gear names, similar to how listings of gear are currently handled in disambiguation pages, gear lists and see also sections (example). This change aims to make the navigation process simpler for laypeople users of the wiki seeking basic information, who are less likely to have gear names and appearances memorized.

These navboxes will be implemented via pasting my demonstration's per type per game navboxes over the current ones (ie. pasting my demonstration S1 headgear navbox over the current one) and/or creating new template subpages for the per brand per game ones in the format of "Template:Navbox/S gear [brand]", ie. "Template:Navbox/S gear amiibo", pasting my demonstrations appropriately. If the per type navbox system is voted against, the current templates should be removed. If any further changes to those demonstration navboxes are needed (such as styling or adding missing gear), that can be discussed after the main implementation of these navboxes site-wide.

These are the most practical methods of sorting gear for navigation agreed upon following an Ink Pump discussion here. Per ability and per star power sorting is made even less practical for S3 gear, as that game freely lets players alter gear abilities and star power, with no quick way to check the original's properties. As such, if I were to look at my enhanced gear in-game, I can't search for that gear on the wiki working off of solely the gear's current ability or star power. Personally I don't know most gear names nor any gear items' star power off the top of my head; visuals are the primary aid when I'm using the wiki for non-editing purposes, and the in-game brand sorting system is the most popular sorting system I've heard of other players using.

As a large amount of edits may be required to enact the change, I'd strongly prefer another more decisive site-wide discussion is held. I've formatted this proposal as a vote as there's some concerns about the two navbox system (in which both per type and per brand navboxes are added) having loading time issues or taking up too much article space.

All demonstrations shown below show the navboxes that would be added to the page for a hypothetical piece of amiibo brand headgear that is S1-exclusive. Yoshifan52 (talk) 22:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Start date: 26 May 2024

End date: 16 June 2024

Implement both per type and per brand navboxes

Under this option, each gear page will be updated to have both a per gear type navbox and a per gear brand navbox. In instances of a piece of gear being available in more than one game, more navboxes will be needed (making for a maximum of 6 navboxes per page, which adds up to take up a lot of screen space).

Preview

Support

1. Definitely seems like the bestoption; showcasing all desired information clearly Pialpha1 (talk) 06:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
2. I support adding to what we have with gear by brand being a great addition.  Perfectionist  (talk) 11:19, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
3. I think it would be better to still have navboxes with all the items of a particular type along with the brand ones. There are some items which look similar, but are different brands, so this would make them easier to find. The icons are great!  GX_64 (talk)  11:44, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
4. I don't know the brands or why they matter. This fixes that problem when trying to view all gear. Trig - 18:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
5. Having the brand navboxes as well as the actually useful navbox is better than removing the actually useful navbox. Really can't imagine why you'd replace the main gear navboxes with the brand ones, just seems like a total downgrade in navigation. I've never cared for the brand of gear unless it's grizzco, amiibo, or cuttlefish, because those brands have gameplay significance in how you obtain them. I don't oppose adding them, but making them the only navbox is just strange. There being a lot of navboxes is a nothing negative in my opinion, they're at the bottom of the page away from everything else for a reason. Harristic (talk) 18:57, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
6. Having both of these generally seems the most useful to me. Gallium![Talk] 10:18, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
7. If I were a person who used navboxes, I would probably like the navbox to have a link to every other gear in the same category, so the headgear/clothing/shoe category navbox is good. I think brand is a bit excessive, as someone looking for that should probably just navigate to a list article with a sortable table, so I will also vote for "gear type only". Heddy (talk) 07:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
8. I prefer both navboxes. Not everyone knows what brand each gear item is, and I feel that having only brand navboxes will make it more difficult to navigate the wiki for many users. Lid (talk) 16:46, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
9. I prefer both. Like the gobbler if there's a way to condense the two together that would be preferable, like the in-game UI which can be sorted by Brand and Ability as well as last used. We could also sort by the gear's default ability. Slate Talk Contribs 13:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
10. Yknow what, the peeps in here have good arguments. I'll do it like Heddy and vote here as well  ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  22:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
11. Cackle (talk) 20:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
12. Agreed with 6-Frisk Olivia (talk) 20:37, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Implement only per type navboxes

Under this option, each gear page will be updated to have a per gear type navbox. In instances of a piece of gear being available in more than one game, more navboxes will be needed (making for a maximum of 3 very long navboxes per page).

Preview

Support

1. I prefer this, but I also voted for "both per type and per brand navboxes". I can tolerate either way. Heddy (talk) 07:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Implement only per brand navboxes

Under this option, each gear page will be updated to have a per gear brand navbox. In instances of a piece of gear being available in more than one game, more navboxes will be needed (making for a maximum of 3 navboxes per page).

Preview

Support

1.  ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  23:30, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
2. I like this one the most. WaferCaken (talk) 05:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
3. Olivia (talk) 09:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
4. OrderSquid38 [Talk] 09:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
5. Puppet!! (talk) 18:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
6. FancyRat 01:12, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
7. Although I was a bit reluctant to see the old style go, sometimes change is good and I definitely think this is a good change. As discussed on the Ink Pump, it splits things up into a much more manageable set of infoboxes, and I believe the work required to implement is worth it for the UX improvement! GloverMist (talk) 10:41, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
8. Sourguppyworm (talk) 00:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Do nothing

Vote in this section if you oppose all options, or if you are neutral, or if you wish to abstain.

Discussion

• My main concern is that having the images in the navboxes makes it take up a lot more screen space on mobile. However, it allows for quicker identification when looking for it. Having navboxes as brand-only splits the gear into more categories rather than just the three types of gear, so they would be smaller and take up less space. I am a bit worried about some difficulty with knowing a piece of gear but not the brand, but I think a smaller amount of information on a piece of gear's individual page is the best option. FancyRat 01:33, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
• About what GX_64 said: aren't "color swap"/similar/variants pieces of gear already listed under "See also"? (or at least I think they ought to, if they're similar enough)

 ♥ #6-Frisk   ‍  18:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

• I realize a bit late I should have provided an example of what the full navbox stack of 3 per type and brand would look like; here it is what the naxbox section would look like for the Red Hi-Horses. To reiterate, the concerns with this system have to do with the large amount of icons being rendered per gear article, which could potentially cause some loading time issues; I'm still on the side of implementing both for complete navigation, but hope this clearer example could help explain the potential issue better. Yoshifan52 (talk) 23:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Preview

• One change I would suggest to the "only per brand" option is to make the Headgear, Clothing, and Shoes links in each game's infoboxes direct you to the list of the respective type per game. Currently all three redirect to the gear page that is already linked in the navbox's header, which seems a bit redundant. Sourguppyworm (talk) 00:39, 5 June 2024 (UTC)